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soonermike22

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I am tired of talk about who is a bigger/better fan, who makes too much/too little money. Tired of those threads. Not reading them anymore.

Does anyone know the status of Maddie and T'Ona for Saturdays game?

What are the chances of a win Saturday with those two, and without either or both?

How do we have to finish to get a top 16 ranking? Lose only to Texas and Baylor? Win one of those games?

Or do we have to make a big run in the post season tourney, and are we capable of that?
 
I am tired of talk about who is a bigger/better fan, who makes too much/too little money. Tired of those threads. Not reading them anymore.

Does anyone know the status of Maddie and T'Ona for Saturdays game?

What are the chances of a win Saturday with those two, and without either or both?

How do we have to finish to get a top 16 ranking? Lose only to Texas and Baylor? Win one of those games?

Or do we have to make a big run in the post season tourney, and are we capable of that?

I don't know about hosting. I wouldn't count on the tourney results having much effect. They never seem to pay much attention to that in seeding for the men's tournaments but maybe the women's is different. Logically, it would seem they would want to give the teams hosting as much advanced notice as possible. How much time is there between the end of the Big XII tournament and the start of March Madness?
 
I am tired of talk about who is a bigger/better fan, who makes too much/too little money. Tired of those threads. Not reading them anymore.

Does anyone know the status of Maddie and T'Ona for Saturdays game?

What are the chances of a win Saturday with those two, and without either or both?

How do we have to finish to get a top 16 ranking? Lose only to Texas and Baylor? Win one of those games?

Or do we have to make a big run in the post season tourney, and are we capable of that?

I am not confident we get to host for two reasons:
1. The rankings by both the committee and the press/coaches polls are based almost 100% on # of wins. So playing almost all bad teams is a huge help. It is a problem in the Big-12 since so many teams can defeat you in conference games. Texas beat the top 4 team ON THE ROAD and is still ranked too low simply because they played so many hard games early. In our case we lost to Oral Roberts and that is hurting us just enough to keep us out of the top 16. It should never have happened - but it did. The football final 4 was handled the same way. Even heads-up results could not overcome this factor. They took the computers out of it since software is better at evaluating things than humans. Most coaches couldn't pass a math or CS class if their lives depended on it, so the only analysis they can do is "number of wins". Strength of schedule is given lip service but not given any weight in the committee rankings - except if they can use it to boost a team they are already biased toward.

2. East coast bias. Almost 100% of the time teams from the eastern part of the country are ranked higher than similar teams farther mid-land. I suspect that is due to percentage of voters from each area. And coaches from a given area/conference are aware of and biased toward the schools they play and see. This is a natural bias and was the value for having a SOS factor as done by the computers. Charlie Crème has the same problem. Just look at us and Kansas State in the Bracketology. He has us both ranked almost identically (6th and 7th seeds) even though we beat them heads up and have a significantly better conference record. Who knows how things will end up, but rankings must be based on what you have done - not on what the future may hold.

If we ran the table - and then won the conference championship we would likely get to host, but losing even one more game probably sinks our chances.
 
Doesn't matter really who or where you play..just win them all and it will take care of it's self....Happens every year
 
I am not confident we get to host for two reasons:
1. The rankings by both the committee and the press/coaches polls are based almost 100% on # of wins. So playing almost all bad teams is a huge help. It is a problem in the Big-12 since so many teams can defeat you in conference games. Texas beat the top 4 team ON THE ROAD and is still ranked too low simply because they played so many hard games early. In our case we lost to Oral Roberts and that is hurting us just enough to keep us out of the top 16. It should never have happened - but it did. The football final 4 was handled the same way. Even heads-up results could not overcome this factor. They took the computers out of it since software is better at evaluating things than humans. Most coaches couldn't pass a math or CS class if their lives depended on it, so the only analysis they can do is "number of wins". Strength of schedule is given lip service but not given any weight in the committee rankings - except if they can use it to boost a team they are already biased toward.

2. East coast bias. Almost 100% of the time teams from the eastern part of the country are ranked higher than similar teams farther mid-land. I suspect that is due to percentage of voters from each area. And coaches from a given area/conference are aware of and biased toward the schools they play and see. This is a natural bias and was the value for having a SOS factor as done by the computers. Charlie Crème has the same problem. Just look at us and Kansas State in the Bracketology. He has us both ranked almost identically (6th and 7th seeds) even though we beat them heads up and have a significantly better conference record. Who knows how things will end up, but rankings must be based on what you have done - not on what the future may hold.

If we ran the table - and then won the conference championship we would likely get to host, but losing even one more game probably sinks our chances.

Sweetest, we're not new to this; the bracketology! How did we get to host in the past? How did the WBB staff know to bid for a NCAA tourney host site in OKC? Win baby win!
 
P.S. - ...and to "win baby win", they must recruit, recruit, recruit to win!
 
Lets remember that the big 12 conference tourney is in OKC we need to get out and support the girls. We saw yesterday what happens playing at home, if Sooner fans can turn the Peake into the LNC North who knows. If we make the finals of the tourney which means we will have to likely beat texas or baylor, I think our chances of hosting a first weekend are pretty good.
 
Well, if you believe Charlie Creme, his bracket has us hosting, unless there is another Norman OK. I think it has something to do with Stanford can't host due to scheduling conflicts in their arena, but I don't know that for sure.
 
Without any real knowledge or research, I would think that if we can win our next two road games, we will cinch a top 16 spot and be a host for first round games.
 
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