Battle 4 Atlantis Champs!

[TINY]

This deserves its own thread.

2 of last 5 champs have won the national title. This was a loaded field, folks. 3 tough teams on a neutral court.

What an accomplish for this team! So happy for them (and the fans)!

 

[OULad]

I think this team has a much better chance of maintaining this through the conference, as long as we stay healthy *knocks on wood*

 

[BossFan64]

This deserves its own thread.

2 of last 5 champs have won the national title. This was a loaded field, folks. 3 tough teams on a neutral court.

What an accomplish for this team! So happy for them (and the fans)!

Very proud of them. This championship is going to help us with national media and selection committee. We found a way to win with a “B-“ game against a good team. There are some important things to fix (rebounding, better movement on offense, turnovers) which I think we can do.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Very proud of them. This championship is going to help us with national media and selection committee. We found a way to win with a “B-“ game against a good team. There are some important things to fix (rebounding, better movement on offense, turnovers) which I think we can do.

Only thing I disagree with is the thought this will help us with the committee. They treat every game the same. Heck, it’s been proven they don’t even value conference tourney championships that much. But three solid wins help, regardless of whether they come in a tourney.

 

[BossFan64]

Only thing I disagree with is the thought this will help us with the committee. They treat every game the same. Heck, it’s been proven they don’t even value conference tourney championships that much. But three solid wins help, regardless of whether they come in a tourney.

Agree to disagree. They always say they treat every game the same. I think history has shown that the criteria varies at times. If that were the case, we would have made one Big Dance in the last three years.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Agree to disagree. They always say they treat every game the same. I think history has shown that the criteria varies at times. If that were the case, we would have made one Big Dance in the last three years.

No, that’s not why we didn’t make it. If anything, if they treated certain games as more important than others, our conference tourney win over Baylor three years ago would have gotten us in because it was one of the final data points and was on a big stage. But the committee treated it no differently than they would have treated a win over Baylor on Nov 10. That criterion hasn’t changed in years. When they adopted NET, they specifically removed game date/order from the formula, and they have stayed consistent with that ever since. They used to emphasize last 10 games but that’s a thing of the past. It is so weird that people don’t believe this. We will get no more or less of a bump from this than we would have for beating Providence, Zona, and Louisville in three separate games played weeks apart.

 

[TINY]

No, that’s not why we didn’t make it. If anything, if they treated certain games as more important than others, our conference tourney win over Baylor three years ago would have gotten us in because it was one of the final data points and was on a big stage. But the committee treated it no differently than they would have treated a win over Baylor on Nov 10. That criterion hasn’t changed in years. When they adopted NET, they specifically removed game date/order from the formula, and they have stayed consistent with that ever since. They used to emphasize last 10 games but that’s a thing of the past. It is so weird that people don’t believe this. We will get no more or less of a bump from this than we would have for beating Providence, Zona, and Louisville in three separate games played weeks apart.

I generally agree but there is still human bias involved nonetheless. Every year there are teams that get in that don’t fit in the box you described, and too often it correlates with an AD of said school being in the committee.

 

[CoachTalk]

CHAMPS!

 

[TEvans4Three]

OU shot 76% to get the win against L'Ville from the FT line...19 of 25.

They are 24th in the country right now at 78% on the year.

Love it.

 

[OULad]

OU shot 76% to get the win against L'Ville from the FT line...19 of 25.

They are 24th in the country right now at 78% on the year.

Love it.

I makes a difference when the right guys are getting to the line as much as they have been.

 

[Seymore Cox]

Gotta give it up. Great job Moser. Great play by all
The players.

 

[BigTime]

Great job. Now bring out the Eddie Sutton pads and bubble rebounding drill!

 

[WichitaSooner]

I makes a difference when the right guys are getting to the line as much as they have been.

Very good point. Sam is really the only guy who isn’t a good FT shooter. Even Wague has shown a good stroke, though obviously he won’t shoot many and won’t be on the floor in crunch time if we have the lead and want our best FT shooters out there. Oddly, Goodine’s career numbers aren’t nearly as good as you’d expect given his perimeter shooting numbers.

 

[Skeeter1]

Champs. Great job by Moser. Awesome coaching.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Very good point. Sam is really the only guy who isn’t a good FT shooter. Even Wague has shown a good stroke, though obviously he won’t shoot many and won’t be on the floor in crunch time if we have the lead and want our best FT shooters out there. Oddly, Goodine’s career numbers aren’t nearly as good as you’d expect given his perimeter shooting numbers.

good thing as you said with wague i doubt goodine is on the court in the last couple of min either ..

the pecking order is starting to show it self .

Fears
Miles
Elvis
Taylor are really all starters at guard (and Taylor will clearly play some 4 also ) ..

goodine is the 5th guard... and he needs to keep firing away ..

 

[hoopsaustin]

This deserves its own thread.

2 of last 5 champs have won the national title. This was a loaded field, folks. 3 tough teams on a neutral court.

What an accomplish for this team! So happy for them (and the fans)!

I'm no mathematician, but that objectively means we have a 40% chance to win the natty now (or something like that)

 

[BoulderSooner]

 

[BoulderSooner]

 

[opsooner]

Only thing I disagree with is the thought this will help us with the committee. They treat every game the same. Heck, it’s been proven they don’t even value conference tourney championships that much. But three solid wins help, regardless of whether they come in a tourney.

It does help with the committee but I agree it doesn’t prove our mettle with them. If the teams we beat don’t pan out (and they might not) and other nonconf opponents don’t pan out (and they might not) then we are back to needing a winning (above .500) conference record. The committee certainly seems to value quality of opponent and the ability of a team to be in the top half of their conference.

That should be our goal anyway, to prove we can compete in the conference and win some close games instead of losing so many as we have done the past 3 years. I am hoping, more than anything, that this trip to Atlantis will help us with that.

 

[Eielson]

I'm no mathematician, but that objectively means we have a 40% chance to win the natty now (or something like that)

At least. If Gonzaga is #3, then that means Louisville is #2 and we're #1.