Big 12 Tournament Bracket Generator

I have us playing OSU in the 8-9 game

1. Kansas (14 - 4)
2. Texas Tech (11 - 7) Defeated West Virginia based on record against #1 teams.
3. West Virginia (11 - 7) Lost to Texas Tech based on record against #1 teams.
4. Kansas State (10 - 8)
5. TCU (9 - 9)
6. Baylor (8 - 10) Defeated Texas and Oklahoma based on round-robin record.
7. Texas (8 - 10) Defeated Oklahoma and lost to Baylor based on round-robin record.
8. Oklahoma (8 - 10) Lost to Baylor and Texas based on round-robin record.
9. Oklahoma State (6 - 12)
10. Iowa State (5 - 13)
 
oudna said:
I have us playing OSU in the 8-9 game

1. Kansas (14 - 4)
2. Texas Tech (11 - 7) Defeated West Virginia based on record against #1 teams.
3. West Virginia (11 - 7) Lost to Texas Tech based on record against #1 teams.
4. Kansas State (10 - 8)
5. TCU (9 - 9)
6. Baylor (8 - 10) Defeated Texas and Oklahoma based on round-robin record.
7. Texas (8 - 10) Defeated Oklahoma and lost to Baylor based on round-robin record.
8. Oklahoma (8 - 10) Lost to Baylor and Texas based on round-robin record.
9. Oklahoma State (6 - 12)
10. Iowa State (5 - 13)
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I have Texas losing their last two games (@KU, WV) to end up at 7-11 and then playing in the 8/9 game.....vaulting us up to 6.
 
stormspencer said:
I have Texas losing their last two games (@KU, WV) to end up at 7-11 and then playing in the 8/9 game.....vaulting us up to 6.
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The ideal spot for us is the 7 where we get Iowa St. and our best shot at a tournament win. At this point, we just need wins on our resume for optics as well as confidence regaining.
 
sperry said:
The ideal spot for us is the 7 where we get Iowa St. and our best shot at a tournament win. At this point, we just need wins on our resume for optics as well as confidence regaining.
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Agree
 
I could see us sitting at the 5 seed getting KSU in the Thursday games. Interesting to see how this week plays out.
 
Big 12 Standings

1. Kansas (14 - 4)
2. Texas Tech (11 - 7) Defeated West Virginia based on head-to-head record.
3. West Virginia (11 - 7) Lost to Texas Tech based on head-to-head record.
4. TCU (10 - 8)
5. Oklahoma (9 - 9) Defeated Kansas State based on record against #1 teams.
6. Kansas State (9 - 9) Lost to Oklahoma based on record against #1 teams.
7. Baylor (8 - 10)
8. Oklahoma State (7 - 11) Defeated Texas based on record against #1 teams.
9. Texas (7 - 11) Lost to Oklahoma State based on record against #1 teams.
10. Iowa State (4 - 14)
 
oudna said:
Agree
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I don't. The "ideal" spot would be for OU to win the last two games of the regular season, finish 9-9, and go to KC with the highest seed possible.

Wins vs. poor RPI teams in the early rounds of conference tournaments are virtually meaningless in the selection/seeding process. The committee proves this year after year after year.

What would be meaningful in the committee room on Selection Sunday is a 9-9 record in the toughest conference in America, a collection of "quality wins" that is second to none, and one of the toughest schedules in the country. All that together would likely merit a seed in the top half of the tournament regardless of what goes down in KC.
 
Zimwillett said:
I don't. The "ideal" spot would be for OU to win the last two games of the regular season, finish 9-9, and go to KC with the highest seed possible.

Wins vs. poor RPI teams in the early rounds of conference tournaments are virtually meaningless in the selection/seeding process. The committee proves this year after year after year.

What would be meaningful in the committee room on Selection Sunday is a 9-9 record in the toughest conference in America, a collection of "quality wins" that is second to none, and one of the toughest schedules in the country. All that together would likely merit a seed in the top half of the tournament regardless of what goes down in KC.
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Clealry. But we were being realistic.

Yes, winning all the games is most ideal!
 
oudna said:
Clealry. But we were being realistic.

Yes, winning all the games is most ideal!
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Fair point. I'm not trying to play the semantics game here, but I reject the premise that it would be "ideal" for OU to get a #7 seed in KC. Plus, I think it's "realistic" for OU to win out. Obviously, tonight is an uphill climb, but if they play like they did vs. K-State and/or at times earlier this season, they're capable of a win in Waco.

My broader point was that a lot of people put WAY too much stock in the notion that "we just need one more win in the conference tourney to get to X amount of wins." Those first round conference tournament wins vs. the conference bottom feeders almost never make much of a difference. In this instance, a second win over an ISU team with an RPI in the 100s would almost certainly do nothing for OU's tournament resume one way or the other.
 
Zimwillett said:
Plus, I think it's "realistic" for OU to win out. Obviously, tonight is an uphill climb, but if they play like they did vs. K-State and/or at times earlier this season, they're capable of a win in Waco.
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I just didn’t see the Baylor game as a realistic win opportunity
 
Losing to the Aggies on Wednesday night in KC and getting relegated to the NIT would be the final embarassment to this stinker of a season. You'd think the guys would have more pride than that, but the month of February proved otherwise.
 
As an update, I ran the numbers and the highest seed we can get in KC is a #6. In order to ensure #6, we need to win on Friday and Texas along with Baylor both need to lose on Saturday (which is actually a decent probability that both lose). As #6, we would almost assuredly play Tech....which is a more favorable matchup for us....if there is one. If either Baylor or Texas were to win, then we WILL be playing on Wednesday....ugh.
 
Crimson King said:
Losing to the Aggies on Wednesday night in KC and getting relegated to the NIT would be the final embarassment to this stinker of a season. You'd think the guys would have more pride than that, but the month of February proved otherwise.
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If it meant Kruger getting canned then that's what I'm rooting for.
 
My memory is short, but I had forgotten that OU was only projected sixth in the Big 12 this season and with a win vs ISU, that's still possible.
One more reason for March hope: OU still ranks No. 37 in the NCAA RPI, even after Tuesday’s loss to Baylor. For all OU’s struggles, the first half of the season still counts.
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Just like OU's win early in the season vs Ohio State got us into the playoff last year, those early wins have to count or everyone will schedule D2 non-conference opponents instead of Oregon and Wichita State.
 
stormspencer said:
As an update, I ran the numbers and the highest seed we can get in KC is a #6. In order to ensure #6, we need to win on Friday and Texas along with Baylor both need to lose on Saturday (which is actually a decent probability that both lose). As #6, we would almost assuredly play Tech....which is a more favorable matchup for us....if there is one. If either Baylor or Texas were to win, then we WILL be playing on Wednesday....ugh.
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I think we need Baylor, Texas, and OSU to all lose in order to get the 6 seed if we beat Iowa State. OSU plays KU tough, but Self never has been swept at KU, so they won't be going through the motions in Stillwater. Would be nice to avoid the play-in game, but we obviously need help Saturday.
 
TulsaWorld said:
My memory is short, but I had forgotten that OU was only projected sixth in the Big 12 this season and with a win vs ISU, that's still possible.


Just like OU's win early in the season vs Ohio State got us into the playoff last year, those early wins have to count or everyone will schedule D2 non-conference opponents instead of Oregon and Wichita State.
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The first half still counts to get into post season play

Unfortunately, it means squat on how we perform in the post season
 
we win....

need ksu and wv to win for us to 6th seed. Any other scenario we go to Wed games, even with win by OU
 
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