Guys getting tired...

[pnkranger]

We wore down at the end of the second half. They had fresher legs. Buddy especially looked slow the last five minutes. We have got to find ways to get him out of the game early and keep him fresh.

 

[MercedeSooner]

Spangs wasn't himself all game today. Really need to get him some rest especially after that knee injury. The last 2 years he's worn down by the end of Big 12 play so we need to somehow manage his minutes a little better.

 

[califca]

I agree. We have got to start getting production from the bench to rest these guys. Their playing way to many minutes. It will bites us come Tourney time if we don't get some productive depth.

 

[StatGeek]

I don't buy the tired argument at all, it is the boogeyman.

 

[DenverSooner]

I don't buy the tired argument at all, it is the boogeyman.

Agreed. These guys are 18-22. They are not tired. They may not have had great energy tonight but they are not worn down.

 

[Swans]

Evans play 39 mins. for OSU.......good thing he finally tired out.

 

[WaymanFan]

I don't buy the tired argument at all, it is the boogeyman.

Well, the reason people do buy the argument is because for two years now, Ryan Spangler was much, much better in December than he was in March. Again, not once, but twice. If he's much, much better in December than March this season, then it's unlikely this team will achieve its goals. Our bench MUST play better. PERIOD.

 

[IndySooner]

I don't buy the tired argument at all, it is the boogeyman.

Well, if you talk to people that actually played the game at that level, you'll hear that it's real. I had a former player tell me after the Kansas game that he was really worried about our legs in March. Too many minutes for the starters.

 

[pnkranger]

Even if their bodies hold up, mental fatigue is a real thing and during a 40 minute basketball game, you are making a TON of decisions at a high rate of speed. It's hard to remain focused for that long.

Sure, Evans played 39 minutes, but he's only averaging 29 minutes per game to Buddy's 33.7. I really think the solution is to bring Buford, James, and Manyang in earlier in the first half so we can see how they're going to hold up. If one of them is off kilter, let's try Odomes or McNeace ... then our starters can have fresh legs for the second half.

 

[KBaden145]

I imagine there are some pretty high winning percentages in this crowd from the posts I'm reading. I trust Lon's ability to divide up minutes and to judge if his guys are tired or not.


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[pnkranger]

I imagine there are some pretty high winning percentages in this crowd from the posts I'm reading. I trust Lon's ability to divide up minutes and to judge if his guys are tired or not.

Lon said it himself in the coach's show immediately after the kansas game. I can't look right now, but it's on soonersports. He says he needs to get the bench in earlier and get Buddy and Ryan some rest sooner.

 

[KBaden145]

Lon said it himself in the coach's show immediately after the kansas game. I can't look right now, but it's on soonersports. He says he needs to get the bench in earlier and get Buddy and Ryan some rest sooner.

Sounds good. I trust you. However, people act like he's not seeing issues or deficiencies. These posts after a good tough win are old. He's well paid to be well aware of where they need to get better and I, unlike some, trust that he is.


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[thewez]

I'd rather have 30 minutes of really good Ryan Spangler than 39 of average Spangler. I was perplexed why Lon didn't get him some rest in the first half when we were up 15. If you can't play your bench in that game, when can you play them in the big 12?

 

[okhoops918]

Just wait until the end of the season...

This team is going to have a hard time come March because Kruger has played Hield about 95% of the possible minutes.

 

[Northbase]

Just wait until the end of the season...

This team is going to have a hard time come March because Kruger has played Hield about 95% of the possible minutes.

I tend to agree. So many have always stated that you "play for March", meaning you keep building so that you peak at that time, which seems to mean that you play your bench every game to keep those guys getting better, keep your starters from becoming beat down, with the idea that come march you are peaking with your strongest possible bench. The downside being that your team may lose some games because the starters were not on the floor for 40 minutes, but the upside, your teams' run into the tournament is deeper because of bench management. This scenario could also hurt the teams' seeding come March with a couple additional loses.

 

[Larry72]

He has to play Buddy all of the time or we would have lost the last 2 games.

i hope we get in a good wide defensive stance against WVU guards Sat ... They can penetrate much better than the Freshman that torched us.

 

[StatGeek]

Well, if you talk to people that actually played the game at that level, you'll hear that it's real. I had a former player tell me after the Kansas game that he was really worried about our legs in March. Too many minutes for the starters.

Thanks, for the tip. I literally have friends and acquaintances that have played for OU, OSU, TU, ORU and Arkansas. One of which had a successful NBA career, and to a man they will tell you it's a joke. The games are easy compared to all the time spent practicing (team and individually). Spanglers production declines as the season goes on due to an increase in the competition and the subsequent decrease in confidence that creates. As for March, we will see how the team performs, but winning or losing will have zero to do with the amount of minutes players played in January games. What will have an Impact is the quality of competition, match ups, and team confidence.

 

[KBaden145]

Just wait until the end of the season...

This team is going to have a hard time come March because Kruger has played Hield about 95% of the possible minutes.

Couldn't disagree more.


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[StatGeek]

In most athletic endeavors the harder you work the better and stronger you become, I wonder why so many believe the opposite is true of basketball. For example: I lift weights 3x a week for 5 months at the end of 5 months I am stronger. I run 5 miles a day for 5 months, at the end of the training I am faster. I play basketball games 35 minutes 2-3x per week for 5 months and I'm completely worn out, makes sense. Meanwhile people my age and older are playing 35 minutes a game in the NBA and are rested, weird.

 

[KBaden145]

In most athletic endeavors the harder you work the better and stronger you become, I wonder why so many believe the opposite is true of basketball. For example: I lift weights 3x a week for 5 months at the end of 5 months I am stronger. I run 5 miles a day for 5 months, at the end of the training I am faster. I play basketball games 35 minutes 2-3x per week for 5 months and I'm completely worn out, makes sense. Meanwhile people my age and older are playing 35 minutes a game in the NBA and are rested, weird.

Wait a minute...I smell logic. Get out of here with that. Don't you know this is a college sports message board?


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