I believe in this team

[skyvue]

That was a very disappointing loss tonight, no doubt about it -- it's been a disappointing four-game stretch -- but even good teams experience rough patches.

But I've seen posts predicting a complete cratering of the season and calling into question all the things the team has achieved this season. I'm sorry, but that's an overreaction (and I won't even address the ugliness I witnessed in the game thread). A couple of very tough losses to surging teams (and one worse loss on the road) doesn't negate what this team has done this season.

A lot of things are going wrong of late, but it's way too early to assume we're not going to bounce back. Yes, we've lost three of four, but just over three weeks ago, KU had suffered their third loss in five games.

Iowa lost tonight. UNC lost at home tonight. The upsets keep coming throughout the top 25, but some have predicted us falling to a four seed. Could it happen? Sure, but why rush to embrace the worst-case scenario? Have a little faith.

Or don't, whatever. If giving in to despair makes you feel better, have at it. But I won't be joining you. I can't even imagine stating, as some have, that all those great wins were mirages, that they didn't matter, that we were never that good. We've been in the top three in the country for 10 weeks in a row, and I'm sorry, but I don't buy the notion that we suckered the entire nation into thinking we were good when we weren't. Our guys earned everything they've achieved so far, and I for one believe they'll find their mojo again. And I'll be cheering them on every step of the way.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

We were that good early. Problem is we haven't evolved or gotten better. Teams know how to exploit our weakness and it doesn't appear this team has tried to work on our weaknesses


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[KBaden145]

That was a very disappointing loss tonight, no doubt about it -- it's been a disappointing four-game stretch -- but even good teams experience rough patches.



But I've seen posts predicting a complete cratering of the season and calling into question all the things the team has achieved this season. I'm sorry, but that's an overreaction (and I won't even address the ugliness I witnessed in the game thread). A couple of very tough losses to surging teams (and one worse loss on the road) doesn't negate what this team has done this season.



A lot of things are going wrong of late, but it's way too early to assume we're not going to bounce back. Yes, we've lost three of four, but just over three weeks ago, KU had suffered their third loss in five games.



Iowa lost tonight. UNC lost at home tonight. The upsets keep coming throughout the top 25, but some have predicted us falling to a four seed. Could it happen? Sure, but why rush to embrace the worst-case scenario? Have a little faith.



Or don't, whatever. If giving in to despair makes you feel better, have at it. But I won't be joining you. I can't even imagine stating, as some have, that all those great wins were mirages, that they didn't matter, that we were never that good. We've been in the top three in the country for 10 weeks in a row, and I'm sorry, but I don't buy the notion that we suckered the entire nation into thinking we were good when we weren't. Our guys earned everything they've achieved so far, and I for one believe they'll find their mojo again. And I'll be cheering them on every step of the way.

An all timer, Sky! Nice and I agree wholeheartedly.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Soonerinkc]

The problem, I see, is teams have figured out how to defend OU. Honest question, do you think this stretch has anything to do with that? If you don't then I guess you'd be right.

Not taking away what they have done, but it's obvious that teams are now pressuring the guards...a lot. Making them work harder..which has multiple effects.

I don't see that trend changing. We have wv, ut on the road. bu at home. The only "sure" which means not a lot, wins are tcu and osu.

I'll cheer every game, hopefully get to a game in KC but OU is stuggling.

UNC lost to Duke, not quite the same as tt. Yes, Iowa losing to a .500 Penn St team is bad, but it has nothing to do with how OU is playing.

You can call it doom and gloom, I call it reality. Just my 2 cents.

Boomer~

 

[skyvue]

You can call it doom and gloom, I call it reality. Just my 2 cents.

Boomer~

Reality is "OU is playing bad right now."

"OU will lose most of the rest of their games and end up with a four seed" isn't reality. That's panic. That's a gloomy prognostication and nothing more.

It could turn out to be true, but it's no more reality at this stage in the game than me predicting we're going to win out, all the way to the national championship (I'm making no such prediction, fwiw). Either could prove to be true, but neither qualifies as reality.

 

[Soonerinkc]

Guess my reality is the way teams are playing d on us. Game 4 and we really haven't changed much to off-set this. On top of that the D has been very suspect.

Your OP talked about the future, the seeding, etc...I responded in what I believed will happen.

I'd say the odds are they drop at least 2 more games...that puts OU at 11-7 conf, 23-7. Good enough for a 2 seed? Don't know, honestly don't care.

I don't think they'll go 0-5 but I also haven't seen enough the last 4 games that they'll go 5-0.

It's a message board. You say what you want, I disagreed to a point, not all the way, and I say what I want.

Boomer!~

 

[oudna]

We were that good early. Problem is we haven't evolved or gotten better. Teams know how to exploit our weakness and it doesn't appear this team has tried to work on our weaknesses


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We got open 3 looks all night and didn't knock them down.

You can credit Tech's defense but I don't buy it's a team "exploiting" a weakness or understanding a scouting report. We've lived by the 3 for 3 years now. It was no surprise to opponents last month when we were winning.

Have to shoot better than 25% to win.

 

[oudna]

The problem, I see, is teams have figured out how to defend OU. Honest question, do you think this stretch has anything to do with that? If you don't then I guess you'd be right.

No, I don't.

 

[Soonerinkc]

No, I don't.

interesting...

You don't think the fact that teams are now pushing the guards harder, tighter D, making them work more...hence tired legs..effects shooting?

Buddy hit 35 straight 3's in the pregame shoot around at ksu. Buddy can shoot. I've coached and played, tired legs effect jump shooters, well at least 99% of the basketball folks I know say this.

Now, if you saying they don't have tired legs, I'd argue that was well. It's a fact we have no bench. Our starters avg 35ish or more minutes a game. I don't care how young you are, you'll get tired. TT had 6 guys with 20 min or more, 1 with 17. Our 3 subs had 11, 13, 14 - starters 35,35,38,34..Lattin 20

 

[oudna]

interesting...

You don't think the fact that teams are now pushing the guards harder, tighter D, making them work more...hence tired legs..effects shooting?

Buddy hit 35 straight 3's in the pregame shoot around at ksu. Buddy can shoot. I've coached and played, tired legs effect jump shooters, well at least 99% of the basketball folks I know say this.

Now, if you saying they don't have tired legs, I'd argue that was well. It's a fact we have no bench. Our starters avg 35ish or more minutes a game. I don't care how young you are, you'll get tired. TT had 6 guys with 20 min or more, 1 with 17. Our 3 subs had 11, 13, 14 - starters 35,35,38,34..Lattin 20

I won't argue against fatigue.

But defenses didn't just all of a sudden start playing us this way.

That's how we've been guarded pretty much since Osby left. Even Tashawn was largely an afterthought - as far as offensive philosophy went.