Interesting Article on Oklahoma Earth Quakes

So the question is, as the waste water from fracking and other O&G exploration fills the existing faults and causes these earthquakes will the result be a more stable foundation after all the shifts? Or will it continue and intensify? Let the scientists figure it out.
 
Seismic activity is up 500% since this began, but this is not the cause? The state's commissions say that it is the cause. But, members of the petroleum association say there is no evidence? What is 500% if not a rather strong piece of evidence?
 
Seismic activity is up 500% since this began, but this is not the cause? The state's commissions say that it is the cause. But, members of the petroleum association say there is no evidence? What is 500% if not a rather strong piece of evidence?

I'm in the petroleum industry and very few say that there is no way disposal wells are not to blame.

Now nearly all will say fracking is not to blame, because it isn't. But most are open to the chance that it could be disposal wells.

And in reality, it is mostly a few high volume disposal wells in one area that is the issue
 
Is it not possible to clean that salt water? If it were just salt, I would think they could boil it, collect the steam, let it cool and then release it. I have no idea what that costs and probably a lot more than pumping into the ground.
 
Is it not possible to clean that salt water? If it were just salt, I would think they could boil it, collect the steam, let it cool and then release it. I have no idea what that costs and probably a lot more than pumping into the ground.


Talking thousands of barrels a day per well

And the epa won't even let fresh water used in operations to touch the ground


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I am going back to 7th grade science but if you boil the water don't you get rid of a lot of. OT most/all other substances. Ecause of different boiling points?
 
You hafta understand that to the general public disposal wells (dewatering) and fracking is all just the same thing. They hear "water injected" and they think it's all the same.

I dont doubt that disposal wells, especially from the millions and millions of gallons used on the OKC field, are creating a majority of the problem. In fact - I think you can call that one 100% verifiable.

But it will take actual evidence and studies and emphasis on them by sources other than those with an economic stake in order to convince many. Devon et al were too ham-handed in their approach and now they're not trusted.
 
The occ has already started shutting in wells that are in a certain formation within a certain area. I think there is enough info to start forcing shut ins and see if there is a correlation


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I dont trust a damn thing that the commissioners do. There does not exist a more corrupt group in this state.
 
The USGS study, released Thursday, comes as officials begin to acknowledge that wastewater disposal is causing quakes. Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, involves shooting a high-pressure mix of water, sand and chemicals deep underground to extract oil and natural gas. When the resulting wastewater is sent thousands of feet into the ground, it can set off earthquakes on faults that haven't moved in a very long time.

Saying that the surge in fracking is not responsible is foolishness. Hopefully we finalize the deal with Iran and restabilize Iraq and get them pumping 8-10 million barrels a day of low cost extraction oil to fill our needs as we transition to alternate sources. Fracking is not some state of the art technology, it's just an expensive solution that works with $100 oil which is terrible for the country.

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So wait is it salt water disposal or is it fracking?
 
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The USGS study, released Thursday, comes as officials begin to acknowledge that wastewater disposal is causing quakes. Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, involves shooting a high-pressure mix of water, sand and chemicals deep underground to extract oil and natural gas. When the resulting wastewater is sent thousands of feet into the ground, it can set off earthquakes on faults that haven't moved in a very long time.

Saying that the surge in fracking is not responsible is foolishness.
Fracking is not directly causing earthquakes. Fracking has been going on for decades.

Not all flowback from fracks is disposed of. Not all disposal water is frack water.

Fracks have gotten bigger with the Shale plays. But not all frack jobs are on shale plays.


Hopefully we finalize the deal with Iran and restabilize Iraq and get them pumping 8-10 million barrels a day of low cost extraction oil to fill our needs as we transition to alternate sources. Fracking is not some state of the art technology, it's just an expensive solution that works with $100 oil which is terrible for the country.
So you want to strengthen our dependence on foreigh oil? Iraq and Iran are suffering with the lower prices as well and they can still control commodity pricing to a great extent.
Also, there is a ton of wells that are still economic for oil companies at $50/oil. To say that fracking only works with $100 oil is ridiculous and inaccurate. If that was true, everybody would be out of business right now.

IF you want lower gasoline prices adn to be independent of foreign oil it is pretty simply. Let crude be exported. If we can get WTI oil into the global market, it will lower gasoline prices.
 
So wait is it salt water disposal or is it fracking?

It's supposedly disposal. And more than likely into a certain formation that is taking a ton more water a day because of the hunton dewatering play.
 
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