Quincy Wadley

Seymore Cox said:
Man in this era, getting a 50 to 100 high school kid is a loss. A transfer is a win. The clown brody is spinning bs. You are too.
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Millwood beating Az Compass still?

Still waiting on your response but I’ll move along since silence is admitting guilt.

Here are the avg for prep school players ranked 50-100
  • 11.8 PPG
  • 4.5 RPG
  • 2.7 APG
  • 45–47% FG
  • 34–36% 3PT
Doesn’t seem like a “loss”

You’re going to have to do better
 
CoachTalk said:
Millwood beating Az Compass still?

Still waiting on your response but I’ll move along since silence is admitting guilt.

Here are the avg for prep school players ranked 50-100
  • 11.8 PPG
  • 4.5 RPG
  • 2.7 APG
  • 45–47% FG
  • 34–36% 3PT
Doesn’t seem like a “loss”

You’re going to have to do better
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That’s the freshman year average for those players? In 2025? I genuinely don’t know, just trying to make sure I understand the numbers.
 
Seymore Cox said:
Boy stop! Some of those guys didn’t get off the bench!
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Mr scout It’s ok to say you screwed up this argument and move onto the next.

We’ll be here to remind you that you scouted AZ compass as a bunch of bums.
 
CoachTalk said:
Mr scout It’s ok to say you screwed up this argument and move onto the next.

We’ll be here to remind you that you scouted AZ compass as a bunch of bums.
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Just going from 50 to 55 on the 247 list, those guys averegard 4.1 points per game. The highest, some kid who went to a bad Auburn team that averaged 7. A UNC pg averaged 1.8.

In the non transfer portal era this Wadlry guy would have low first year expectations. You’re acting like he’s going to be a game changer. There is a reason why he was available…..
 
Disclaimer: I have not attempted to do the math, or even look up the rankings from last season. But I find it hard to believe the guys ranked 51-100 averaged double digits as freshmen. I mean, one of the arguments a lot of the Moser defenders have made on this board when people point out the lack of production from guys like Kai and Cooper and other OU freshmen is that in this era, it is usually only the true blue chippers who come in and make a big impact as freshmen. I just can't imagine the back half of the top 100 is putting up 11 ppg as a group.
 
Around 6-8 PPG (with significant variation; many play limited minutes).


This is based on the 2025 high school recruiting class (the current 2025-26 freshmen, as of May 2026 data from the ongoing or recently completed season). "Previous recruiting cycle" aligns with this group. Data comes primarily from RSCI consensus rankings (via Sports-Reference) and supporting reports from ESPN, 247Sports, etc.


Key Context and Breakdown​


  • Top 10-20 (elite prospects): Often 15-25+ PPG (e.g., Cameron Boozer ~22.5, AJ Dybantsa ~25.5, Darius Acuff Jr. ~23.5 early/midseason). Top-10 averaged ~17-18 PPG midseason per ESPN.
  • Ranks ~21-50: Typically 8-15 PPG for those with real roles, dropping off as depth/playing time decreases (e.g., many 5-10 PPG in limited or bench roles).
  • Ranks 51-100: Most are role players or bench contributors at Power conference programs (or starters at lower levels). Typical range is 3-10 PPG, with an rough average ~6-8 PPG across those who saw meaningful minutes. Many played <15-20 MPG, pulling the group average down.

Examples from RSCI ~51-100 (approximate season PPG, full or partial):


  • Nyk Lewis (VCU, ~53): ~8.7 PPG (starter).
  • Chance Mallory (Virginia, ~57): ~9.3 PPG.
  • Amari Allen (Alabama, ~69): ~11.4 PPG.
  • Nigel James (Marquette, ~96): ~16.4 PPG (strong role).
  • Lower-minute/depth players: Often 2-6 PPG (e.g., bench wings/bigs with 3-6 PPG in 10-15 MPG).

Many in this tier contribute more in rebounding, defense, or shooting efficiency than raw scoring. Production varies heavily by program fit, injuries, and competition level—high-major depth players score less than mid-major starters.


Notes/Caveats​


  • Stats are season-long or mid-to-late season (as of early-mid 2026 reports); full final averages may shift slightly.
  • Not every ranked player appears in box scores equally (redshirts, injuries, depth).
  • Historical patterns for this tier are similar: solid but not dominant contributors as freshmen.

For the most precise/current numbers, check Sports-Reference RSCI pages or KenPom/EvanMiya for full freshman lists by recruiting rank. Top-50 overall skews much higher due to stars.
 
Actually, I found this. It looks like there are three guys in the 51-100 range who averaged double digits, and a lot of guys who did very little. Again, I haven't taken the time to do the math, but just eye balling it, I'd guess around 5-6 ppg is likely the average.


Edited to add the actual link since, you know, that might be helpful lol.
 
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WichitaSooner said:
Disclaimer: I have not attempted to do the math, or even look up the rankings from last season. But I find it hard to believe the guys ranked 51-100 averaged double digits as freshmen. I mean, one of the arguments a lot of the Moser defenders have made on this board when people point out the lack of production from guys like Kai and Cooper and other OU freshmen is that in this era, it is usually only the true blue chippers who come in and make a big impact as freshmen. I just can't imagine the back half of the top 100 is putting up 11 ppg as a group.
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Don’t have to go to far for an example of one that worked. Brady Manek was in the 80-95 range and started as a freshmen. Averaged 10 and 5.
 
snydrosooner said:
Don’t have to go to far for an example of one that worked. Brady Manek was in the 80-95 range and started as a freshmen. Averaged 10 and 5.
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And your point? This may be the biggest straw man I have ever seen. Has a single poster suggested that no freshman outside the top 40 or 50 has contributed? The discussion is what the reasonable expectations are. And more to the point, we are discussing the accuracy of specific stats that Coach posted. Manek also played in an era before the portal. It's much harder for freshmen to make an impact now. That's why a borderline top 50 player like this didn't have a ton of offers from top 25 programs.

Maybe I am missing your point and if so I apologize. And again, I am not saying there is no chance he will make a big impact, since we don't exactly have a ton of guard depth. But the numbers tell us that is the exception these days.
 
WichitaSooner said:
And your point? This may be the biggest straw man I have ever seen. Has a single poster suggested that no freshman outside the top 40 or 50 has contributed? The discussion is what the reasonable expectations are. And more to the point, we are discussing the accuracy of specific stats that Coach posted. Manek also played in an era before the portal. It's much harder for freshmen to make an impact now. That's why a borderline top 50 player like this didn't have a ton of offers from top 25 programs.

Maybe I am missing your point and if so I apologize. And again, I am not saying there is no chance he will make a big impact, since we don't exactly have a ton of guard depth. But the numbers tell us that is the exception these days.
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I agree that plenty of examples where 50-100 did not make a difference, was just showing that it has worked at ou before. I hope it does cause we could use it, but also realistic of how moser has treated freshman.
 
Seymore Cox said:
Just going from 50 to 55 on the 247 list, those guys averegard 4.1 points per game. The highest, some kid who went to a bad Auburn team that averaged 7. A UNC pg averaged 1.8.

In the non transfer portal era this Wadlry guy would have low first year expectations. You’re acting like he’s going to be a game changer. There is a reason why he was available…..
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Never said game changer.

You said mid major. That started this discussion.

I hope for best
 
We need to hope Wadley is a good player next year. You really need at least 4 competent guards at handling the ball under SEC pressure. This year we only had 3 (jones was a wing to me) and when Brown got sick for a few games, we struggled, and then when we lost Dayton to injury, it dramatically effected our team. With injuries and such, you just have to have at least 4 kids that can truly play guard. If Wadley is good enough to give us a few minutes of quality play, that should be enough to improve us from this year at the guard spot. Going to miss Pack though. Dude was a straight baller. Way better than I dreamed he could be when we signed him. If we get the good Pop, and not the bad Pop, I think we will be in business and could take a good step forward this year.

Just watched the video somebody posted, but Wadley looks like a good player that will fit what we need for next year.
 
Seymore Cox said:



This guy is ranked higher. What level did he go to?


I can’t wait till next season when Moser goes on his 10 game conference slide so you can disappear.
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The portal effect. He is going to a school he feels like will get the most playing time hoping to play well and get a payday after year 1 or 2. I heard several mid major coaches talking about how they are selling that to players. Not all schools, but the coach’s on the show mentioned that as a recruiting tool.
 
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