Someone explain the NET rankings to me

[hoopsaustin]

How is OU a 17 on it.. and Loyola-chicago a 10 and coalgate for that matter a 11. Neither of them have played anyone or won anything.. im confused

Loyola-chicago shouldn't be ranked in any rankings IMO

 

[WichitaSooner]

It includes things like scoring margin, offensive and defensive metrics, and game location, in addition to your record and strength of schedule. But remember, NET is important but not the only thing they look at. That’s why the teams you mention are not in the conversation for a top four or five seed despite their lofty NET rankings.

 

[stormspencer]

How is OU a 17 on it.. and Loyola-chicago a 10 and coalgate for that matter a 11. Neither of them have played anyone or won anything.. im confused

Loyola-chicago shouldn't be ranked in any rankings IMO

Just like the old RPI, you are going to have some outliers. However, I have no answer in regards to Colgate or how they are at 11. At least Loyola is #10 in Kenpom, primarily because they are #1 in defensive efficiency in the country.

As Wichita said, outside of the "quads" classification setup, this metric also has built-in variables like scoring margin, location, and efficiencies. Loyola may be robust in a couple of these advanced analytics, but they won't get anything higher than a 7 or 8 seed....simply because they won't have the resume (they only have one quad-1 win, but they are 4-2 in quad-2 games).

I know that the committee looks at several ratings system, but uses NET as their main "advanced metric". Again, I'm sorry I can't give you a better answer.

 

[opsooner]

Just like the old RPI, you are going to have some outliers. However, I have no answer in regards to Colgate or how they are at 11. At least Loyola is #10 in Kenpom, primarily because they are #1 in defensive efficiency in the country.

As Wichita said, outside of the "quads" classification setup, this metric also has built-in variables like scoring margin, location, and efficiencies. Loyola may be robust in a couple of these advanced analytics, but they won't get anything higher than a 7 or 8 seed....simply because they won't have the resume (they only have one quad-1 win, but they are 4-2 in quad-2 games).

I know that the committee looks at several ratings system, but uses NET as their main "advanced metric". Again, I'm sorry I can't give you a better answer.

Looks like Colgate has only played 3 teams so far.
They are 3-1 against Army, 2-0 against Boston U, and 4-0 against Holy Cross (one of those was in OT) for a total of 9-1. Those 3 teams they have played are 9-6, 4-6, 3-9, respectively.

The Patriot League has gone to 3 sub leagues due to COVID and are playing back-to-back games.

Funny. I heard some talking head on TV laughing at people because the people complained about supposed experts ranking teams and then the same people complained because they didn’t like the results of “computer” rankings that supposedly took politics out of the equation. I wanted to tell the guy that supposed experts still have to write the algorithms that the computers are using. This seems like a perfect example of a case where the algorithm needs a bit more work.


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[TINY]

Looks like Colgate has only played 3 teams so far.
They are 3-1 against Army, 2-0 against Boston U, and 4-0 against Holy Cross (one of those was in OT) for a total of 9-1. Those 3 teams they have played are 9-6, 4-6, 3-9, respectively.

The Patriot League has gone to 3 sub leagues due to COVID and are playing back-to-back games.

Funny. I heard some talking head on TV laughing at people because the people complained about supposed experts ranking teams and then the same people complained because they didn’t like the results of “computer” rankings that supposedly took politics out of the equation. I wanted to tell the guy that supposed experts still have to write the algorithms that the computers are using. This seems like a perfect example of a case where the algorithm needs a bit more work.


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No doubt the algo needs tweaking. I think the main problem this year is lack of data, though. The most important stat should be strength of win this year due to lack of normalization of schedules.

 

[stormspencer]

Looks like Colgate has only played 3 teams so far.
They are 3-1 against Army, 2-0 against Boston U, and 4-0 against Holy Cross (one of those was in OT) for a total of 9-1. Those 3 teams they have played are 9-6, 4-6, 3-9, respectively.

The Patriot League has gone to 3 sub leagues due to COVID and are playing back-to-back games.

Funny. I heard some talking head on TV laughing at people because the people complained about supposed experts ranking teams and then the same people complained because they didn’t like the results of “computer” rankings that supposedly took politics out of the equation. I wanted to tell the guy that supposed experts still have to write the algorithms that the computers are using. This seems like a perfect example of a case where the algorithm needs a bit more work.


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We should have scheduled Colgate for another Quad-1 win!

 

[Speedy17]

The committee is not paying much attention to the NET at this point, they have OU seeded as a #3 and #12 overall. That was before the West Virginia win on the road.