We have an actual game on the schedule!

colston15 said:
We play, most years, in the toughest (or second toughest) conference in the country. We face plenty of good teams in the SEC and always add a handful of tough non-con games. I’d be happy if one or two of those were in Norman, or at least in Oklahoma.

But spare me the lecture on RPI metrics, because I don’t care. My biggest criticism of Moser is losing SO MANY winnable SEC games AT HOME. As the first team out, one win is quite literally the difference.

That’s where it begins and ends for me.
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You don't care.. okay. Do you pick the tourney teams in march?
 
Bob P has an article up. He apparently interviewed Moser and Moser is talking tough about how he wants to be way beyond the bubble. If anyone wants to summarize for those of us who can’t read it, it would be much appreciated.
 
WichitaSooner said:
No, you’re wrong. We can’t go .500 in conference. Moser has proven that five straight years. And most years, he hasn’t even come close. So, again, when you know that path A is an impossibility as long as Moser is recruiting and coaching at his current level, then it is essential to beef up the noncon.

And even if we had a better coach capable of going.500 in league, I’d still want to schedule harder outside the league. Again, if there are truly two paths to getting to the tournament, you should pursue both rather than putting all your eggs in one basket. I mean, Alabama, Purdue, KU, UF … those teams all know they will be above .500 in elite leagues, yet even they put together a great noncon. Why? To prepare their teams and to put themselves in the best position possible in March. For them, it’s about seeding. For us, it’s even more important, because it’s about simply making the field.
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Youre changing the question and answer.

We are talking schedule and you went into your typical and predictable go to answer.

The conversation was the schedule. Many ways to make the tournament. You always think your way is the only way.... Its not. I know you dont believe this but youd be the dumbest person in the mens basketball office.

Again... I repeat. I want better home games. I attend as many as I can, almost all wednesdays and all break games.

You just compared us to bama, purdue, KU and UF... thats an asinine comparison.
 
CoachTalk said:
Youre changing the question and answer.

We are talking schedule and you went into your typical and predictable go to answer.

The conversation was the schedule. Many ways to make the tournament. You always think your way is the only way.... Its not. I know you dont believe this but youd be the dumbest person in the mens basketball office.

Again... I repeat. I want better home games. I attend as many as I can, almost all wednesdays and all break games.

You just compared us to bama, purdue, KU and UF... thats an asinine comparison.
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Nope, as usual, you can't understand the argument so you say I changed the subject. And the irony is that YOU are the one who acts like there is only way one. You constantly talk about how many Q1 games there are in the conference as if that, in itself, is enough to get us into the tourney. You completely disregard the effect of playing sh$t games a year. Sure, you give lip service to wanting better home games, but only because you would enjoy going to those games. You never acknowledge the damage that playing NW San Jacinto Junior High does to our resume.

I did not compare us to those teams. I did the opposite by pointing out that programs that are far superior, and that could easily take the cupcake route, don't.

As for being the dumbest person in the basketball office -- I could remedy that immediately by simply hiring you. And given the fact Moser has not made a single adjustment to his scheduling philosophy, which has failed for five years running, I am pretty sure I have him beat, too. Hard to say about the other people in the office, since they rotate on a weekly basis, once they realize they don't want to stick around on Moser's sinking ship.
 
colston15 said:
You’re a clueless dweeb if you think it’s impossible for us to win one more home game per year in the SEC.

I’m not even making a pro-Moser argument. The next coach will be in a very similar situation, and his success or failure will have NOTHING to do with non-con scheduling smoke and mirrors.
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I guess there is no point continuing to argue with someone who purports to follow college basketball but is so ignorant with respect to one of the most important factors that determines a team's fate.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Nope, as usual, you can't understand the argument so you say I changed the subject. And the irony is that YOU are the one who acts like there is only way one. You constantly talk about how many Q1 games there are in the conference as if that, in itself, is enough to get us into the tourney. You completely disregard the effect of playing sh$t games a year. Sure, you give lip service to wanting better home games, but only because you would enjoy going to those games. You never acknowledge the damage that playing NW San Jacinto Junior High does to our resume.

I did not compare us to those teams. I did the opposite by pointing out that programs that are far superior, and that could easily take the cupcake route, don't.

As for being the dumbest person in the basketball office -- I could remedy that immediately by simply hiring you. And given the fact Moser has not made a single adjustment to his scheduling philosophy, which has failed for five years running, I am pretty sure I have him beat, too. Hard to say about the other people in the office, since they rotate on a weekly basis, once they realize they don't want to stick around on Moser's sinking ship.
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I 100% understand your argurment... I listed out 3 options... you refuse to see anyone else POV except yours.

they dont take the cupcake route becuase they arent on our level.

Once again. You can lose the NCAA tourn in non conf just as easy as make it.
 
CoachTalk said:
I 100% understand your argurment... I listed out 3 options... you refuse to see anyone else POV except yours.

they dont take the cupcake route becuase they arent on our level.

Once again. You can lose the NCAA tourn in non conf just as easy as make it.
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No dispute there. Moser has mastered that art.
 
hoopsaustin said:
Yeah.. stacking 300 teams' scalps has served us well
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Exactly. And Miami barely making the tourney because of their crap schedule is just the latest indication that the raw win total is almost meaningless. Thankfully, it’s no longer 1990 and the committee and most fans with common sense understand that wins against garbage teams are basically meaningless.
 
We need to play a better non con. But let’s not overlook the fact that if Missouri misses one of those last second shots we are probably in the dance. Coaching decisions aside, winning an additional sec road game or 2 sec home Games would have done wonders for our chances. As was mentioned, stronger non con is not only way to get into ncaa. Better conference play is also an option.
 
snydrosooner said:
We need to play a better non con. But let’s not overlook the fact that if Missouri misses one of those last second shots we are probably in the dance. Coaching decisions aside, winning an additional sec road game or 2 sec home Games would have done wonders for our chances. As was mentioned, stronger non con is not only way to get into ncaa. Better conference play is also an option.
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Of course. But our main point is that porter will lose x amount of conference games every year that he shouldn't bc hes an idiot.

If he stacked 200 teams' wins instead of 300+, maybe he can sneak in regardless of his historic conference woes (with the pathetic expansion, it might not matter anyway. Well see)..
 
hoopsaustin said:
Of course. But our main point is that porter will lose x amount of conference games every year that he shouldn't bc hes an idiot.

If he stacked 200 teams' wins instead of 300+, maybe he can sneak in regardless of his historic conference woes (with the pathetic expansion, it might not matter anyway. Well see)..
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It's such an easy concept and I honestly don't get why some posters either don't understand or refuse to acknowledge it.

Analogy: I could earn a nice living by buying lottery tickets and hoping for the best. I also could earn a nice living by working hard and being good at my job. Should I just roll the dice and solely pursue the former strategy (i.e., we "could" or "would" make the tourney if we suddenly manage to do well in our league for the first time under Moser), or should I go ahead and work hard in case I don't hit the jackpot?
 
WichitaSooner said:
It's such an easy concept and I honestly don't get why some posters either don't understand or refuse to acknowledge it.

Analogy: I could earn a nice living by buying lottery tickets and hoping for the best. I also could earn a nice living by working hard and being good at my job. Should I just roll the dice and solely pursue the former strategy (i.e., we "could" or "would" make the tourney if we suddenly manage to do well in our league for the first time under Moser), or should I go ahead and work hard in case I don't hit the jackpot?
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We get that, we also see how this coach operates and know that probably will not change so we look for other ways.
 
colston15 said:
I understand wanting better early season home games. The problem is — no one goes.

I’ve posted the stats before and they are bad. It was bad under Lon, too.
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As a fan who attends game, I would have to see those stats to believe that is true. When we play better teams we have better crowds. I'm not saying we sell out, but the crowds are better and it gives the program a chance to build some momentum with the fans if we actually beat a good team at home. This program has been systematically torn down by the current staff and it won't build back because we play a better team one time at home. It's a process to build back fan support just like it was a process to tear it down. Besides all of that, as a fan, I want to see us play teams with equal or better talent at least a couple of times a year so I can look forward to going to a competitive game.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
We legit have this same argument every 2 weeks. The same exact argument.
Can we all just show some self control and let it go?
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It's sooo nauseating. We could def schedule some stronger non-con games here and there...but I don't believe for a sec that we would have made it to the tourney this year had we scheduled 2-3 slightly stronger non-con opponents. The 9-game losing streak in conference, and some dumb luck by Mizzou did us in.
 
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