4 Position Problem?

[bluesooner17]

I know Sherri loves a 4 guard offense, but over the last few years playing a 2 or 3 position guard (Kornet and Maddie) at the 4 has created problems as far as rebounding and matchups. I truly do not understand why if you don't have a player that fits the role you play it anyway. To me you are setting the player up to fail. My opinion, but Kornet even with her size (6'1", 167) was more suited for the 3 or 2 not a 4 and with Maddie (6'2", 147 (last years weight)) she can not get in there and rebound/manup with the 4's just doesn't have the bulk or strength.

 

[sybarite]

Do you realize that Maddie is our second-leading rebounder in conference play, despite the fact that she is defending out front about two-thirds of the time?

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

She might be wherever it is she's lies on the rebounding chart- but that isn't even rebounding in my book. What is rebounding is do you find your man and pin them- and if WATCH Maddie does that better than anybody. Maddie is a smaller four but she does not play like it. WATCH

 

[soonermike22]

Do you realize that Maddie is our second-leading rebounder in conference play, despite the fact that she is defending out front about two-thirds of the time?

You are good at reporting stats, so I was wondering if you could get each players rebounds per minute played. I think that is a better indicator than total rebounds per GAME

 

[sybarite]

You are good at reporting stats, so I was wondering if you could get each players rebounds per minute played. I think that is a better indicator than total rebounds per GAME

I don't want to do the work on that. Let's look back at one game, Iowa State. Who was it that kept getting offensive rebounds that milked time off the clock? She had four offensive boards in that one game, mostly near the end of the game.

In conference play, Maddie and Kay Kay have played about the same number of minutes (232-228). Kay Kay averages 6.3. Maddie averages 5.2. This is despite the fact that Maddie is often out front. Where is Kay Kay supposed to be?

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

the + or - per 100 pocession is probably the best indicator of how well someone is really playing in every aspect of the game. That is +/- the number of total points a player accounts for per 100 pocession, against the other average players at their position. +5 is an allstar caliber player in the NBA anything less is obviously increasing worse. Maddies +/- was 4 as well as Peytons and those were the two highest. Actually Gabbi was positive and just about everyone else was negative if I remember correctly. I remember Gioya was a -1...

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

the + or - per 100 pocession is probably the best indicator of how well someone is really playing in every aspect of the game. That is +/- the number of total points a player accounts for per 100 pocession, against the other average players at their position. +5 is an allstar caliber player in the NBA anything less is obviously increasing worse. Maddies +/- was 4 as well as Peytons and those were the two highest. Actually Gabbi was positive and just about everyone else was negative if I remember correctly. I remember Gioya was a -1...

S4L, could you pick a player - maybe Maddie - and show us how you calculated that +/- number? The 4 you mentioned doesn't make sense to me for Maddie.

I use a numeric value to evaluate players that incorporates all the factors that are valued (points, rebounds, assists, etc.). In college lots of factors are critical - not just points. In fact certain players can be the MVP of a team without scoring much at all.

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

S4L, could you pick a player - maybe Maddie - and show us how you calculated that +/- number? The 4 you mentioned doesn't make sense to me for Maddie.

I use a numeric value to evaluate players that incorporates all the factors that are valued (points, rebounds, assists, etc.). In college lots of factors are critical - not just points. In fact certain players can be the MVP of a team without scoring much at all.

It was on the live stats. At one point Maddie was at like a 7 or 8. It takes everything into account, steals, blocks, ect. its Advanced Analytics. first time I noticed that they did that on the live stats, take a look next game.

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

What is Box Plus/Minus?

Box Plus/Minus (BPM) is a box score-based metric for evaluating basketball players' quality and contribution to the team. It is the latest version of a stat previously called Advanced Statistical Plus/Minus; it is NOT a version of Adjusted Plus/Minus, which is a play-by-play regression metric.

BPM relies on a player's box score information and the team's overall performance to estimate a player's performance relative to league average. BPM is a per-100-possession stat, the same scale as Adjusted Plus/Minus: 0.0 is league average, +5 means the player is 5 points better than an average player over 100 possessions (which is about All-NBA level), -2 is replacement level, and -5 is really bad.

To get a feel for the scale:

-The greatest seasons of all time by BPM are LeBron James' 2009 and 2010 seasons, and Michael Jordan's 1989 tour-de-force. All of those seasons had BPMs between +12.5 and +13.0.
-Some players who over their career were about average (+0.0) include Stephen Jackson, Kurt Thomas, Leandro Barbosa, James Donaldson, and Channing Frye.
The best player by BPM in 2013/14 was LeBron James, at +8.9, just above MVP Kevin Durant's +8.8. Kevin Love was close behind at +8.3, and Stephen Curry (+7.4) and Chris Paul (+7.4) round out the top five.
-Some players at or near +0.0 (average) from the 2013-14 NBA season include: Monta Ellis, Martell Webster, Iman Shumpert, Roy Hibbert, Nene Hilario, Ray Allen, Terrence Ross, and J.R. Smith.
-The worst player who played significant minutes in 2013-14 was Dennis Schroder of Atlanta, with a very poor -8.3 rating. Anthony Bennett, the surprise 2013 draft number 1 pick, followed with a -7.3