Bill Self to the Thunder?

WTSooner said:
Why are you coming after me on this? lol

All I did was pass along a piece of information that I read on a paid site (ESPN), that suggested OKC and Brooks are a significant ways apart in salary negotiations. I even said, in my first post, that I thought they'd get a deal done.

Sheesh.
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Coming after? lol
 
Actually the Westbrook Marbury comparison appears to be dead on. Their stats at age 23 are virtually identical across the board except Marbury was far better assisting his teammates and turned the ball over less.

Nice hit ABD.
 
bocabull said:
Actually the Westbrook Marbury comparison appears to be dead on. Their stats at age 23 are virtually identical across the board except Marbury was far better assisting his teammates and turned the ball over less.

Nice hit ABD.
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Marbury is a loser. Westbrook is a winner and competes his ass off. The comparison is asinine, at best. I love how people compare stats of clown, loser teams compared to elite teams. How you compete and winning matters.
 
Marbury was every bit as good as Westbrook at 23 and as highly thought of. He was traded for Jason Kidd if you recall. The winning difference is due to Kevin Durant vs Keith Van Horn. Lol
 
bocabull said:
Marbury was every bit as good as Westbrook at 23 and as highly thought of. He was traded for Jason Kidd if you recall. The winning difference is due to Kevin Durant vs Keith Van Horn. Lol
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No, it's not. It's because Russ is a winner, and Stephon is a loser. Stephon has played with Hall of Famers on his team.

One only has to look at career playoff numbers to see the difference. Not to mention watch each guy play at the same age and ask yourself who plays harder and has the will to win.

Talent wise it's a valid comparison. But there's much more to it than that. There is a problem when a pg of Marbury's ability gets to the postseason only 5 times in his career, one of which was as a castaway on a Boston team a few years ago. Marbury's career numbers in games anyone cares about (playoffs) are horrifying. The numbers he racked up playing for non playoff teams means very little to me, maybe I'm different. Not to mention a guy of his caliber should never play for 7 (6 different) teams. Tells me all I need to know.

Note: Stephon has a great reputation as a Philanthropist, to which he should be commended
 
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Have to agree with Play here. Starbury was a nutcase. He leads the league in feuds with well known celebrities, so at least he has that going for him.:ez-roll::ez-roll: He threatened to murder Jay-Z, he feuded with Jamie Foxx when both thought Gabriel Union was their girlfriend, while D Wade rode off with her into the sunset, and he had a pimps/hoes organization going with Isaiah Thomas in NY, then they both rolled on each other.

Marbury personified the legendary NY playground pg. He was flashy, cocky, and could beat you off the dribble, but had very little brain, and even less concern about WINNING. He's also famous for getting on Myspace after a bad loss, and bragging about, " his numbers", even though they just got ran by 40..... He can fight Pearl Washington, Telfair, Kenny Anderson, and a few others for the most hyped NY PG of all time..... who won NOTHING.
 
Westbrook is a superstar. He can do things most others simply can not do.
 
I fully expect Westbrook to elevate his career dramatically above Marbury in the future. But the style of play and comparison at the same age is amazingly close.

Doubt we see Westbrook eating Vaseline on YouTube anytime soon.
 
The Marbury/Westbrook comparison is asinine. Anyone who has seen both guys play extensively would not make it. Westbrook has improved every year he's been in the league. Does anyone ever remember "Starbury" improving?
 
By the way, the Westbrook criticism is just baffling to me. They wouldn't have been anywhere near the Finals without Westbrook. There are only 2 or 3 guys I would take at point guard over him. Derrick Rose, Tony Parker, and maybe one other guy I can't think of right now.
 
When I hear that someone went 43-5-7 in the NBA finals, Stephon Marbury is the first name that pops into my head.

:ed
 
brooks blows.. a group of monkeys could "coach" the thunder team to the playoffs.. failing to recognize that perkins and ibaka were too slow to play together on the court at the same time was laughable..
 
hoopsaustin said:
brooks blows.. a group of monkeys could "coach" the thunder team to the playoffs.
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And could those same monkeys coach the team past the San Antonio Spurs, who were on a 20-game roll, and into the NBA finals?
 
You could not find a more accurate on court comparison to Westbrook than Marybury at 23 years old. Both were all stars, members of team USA, widely accepted as top 5 at their position, both averaged 23 and change on 19 shots per game, were flashy athletes, and both were criticized for shooting too much. Same size, both picked 4th in the draft, the list goes on and on.

What is asinine is to compare what Marbury did later in his career to what Westbrook has not done yet.
 
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Anybody who throws some shoes out there like Starburys needs some extra dap.
 
bocabull said:
Actually the Westbrook Marbury comparison appears to be dead on. Their stats at age 23 are virtually identical across the board except Marbury was far better assisting his teammates and turned the ball over less.

Nice hit ABD.
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their PER is very much different
 
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