Boeheim's +3 rule

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is foul.

always foul (in last 2 I assume)

Do you agree with it?

Kelvin might now.
 
houston was up 2.

but yeah i agree, always foul. like we should have at osu. practice it, and always foul when up 3. it sucks all the fun and drama out of the game. but to me its a no brainer this day in age.
 
I agree. Just gotta practice it with real refs so that kids know how to not foul a shooter.
 
Yes. We lost at osu because we didn’t foul up 3.
 
Yes, and Kruger does as well. We have in several games, and it's worked all but once.

I wonder because you hear coaches and commentators talk about it all the time saying "should foul" but then when the situation rises so few actually foul. But Boeheim teaches it point blank to his players and they know. I liked that.
 
Probably, but I hate it.

If you know the other team is going to foul though, you should be ready to throw a shot up. And it should change how you go about possessions late in games. I thought MSU did a terrible job adjusting.
 
Probably, but I hate it.

If you know the other team is going to foul though, you should be ready to throw a shot up. And it should change how you go about possessions late in games. I thought MSU did a terrible job adjusting.

I agree with this, too. I wish they had an intentional foul rule for that type of situation. The buzzer beating 3 is one of the best parts of basketball. Watching 6 trillion foul shots at the end of games is inarguably the worst part of basketball. Seems like a pretty simple call: if you're up by more than 3 with under 20 seconds, intentional fouls will be 2 shots and the ball.
 
Inside about 8 seconds, yes. More than this, D up. You can add a few seconds if the team really has good shooters but the numbers say that's how you should do it. It doesn't always work, but the odds are in your favor. Boeheim got it right twice.
 
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Kruger believes in it and they practice it. Rashard screwed up by trying to deny the ball to hard and had to play chase. Then Trae just flat didn't come close to fouling him when he went by him. No excuse for either guy not to make a simple play. We actually called time out before the inbounds to only tell them to foul.
 
Kruger believes in it and they practice it. Rashard screwed up by trying to deny the ball to hard and had to play chase. Then Trae just flat didn't come close to fouling him when he went by him. No excuse for either guy not to make a simple play. We actually called time out before the inbounds to only tell them to foul.

I don't know how or if it's possible to figure this out, but it sure seemed like this team gambled too often on defense by going for a steal and not getting it and then everyone else has to rotate and play catch-up which invariably leaves someone open. It felt like this happened to OU's defense far more than any other but maybe that's just my bias caused by watching more OU games than other teams'. It sure didn't seem like OU's opponents gambled on defense and came up empty as much as OU did. It definitely did on that play you described when Odomes blew his contain by trying to get a steal the team didn't really need.
 
Foul when less than 8 seconds, make as much time run off before they can even get a shot then foul. Jay Bills wrote a 2-3 page paper saying why you shouldn't foul, which just reaffirmed my belief in fouling.
 
The problem with the OSU game was the foul would have been with 7 seconds left. Not a true end of game play. Too much time to have other things go wrong to foul at that point.
 
The problem with the OSU game was the foul would have been with 7 seconds left. Not a true end of game play. Too much time to have other things go wrong to foul at that point.

Nah clear foul situation imo
 
The problem with the OSU game was the foul would have been with 7 seconds left. Not a true end of game play. Too much time to have other things go wrong to foul at that point.

Still a clear foul situation and has worked every time except once for OU.



OU did the same in 2015 vs KU, we actually did it several times that game. The only time we got burned on it was when Cousins fouled on the 3 because Mason stuck his leg out and got the foul.


We did the same against Texas, Baylor, and a few others.



The only time we truly got burned doing it was at Texas Tech, where we fouled up 4 with only a few seconds left, and Tech missed the 2nd shot, got the rebound, and hit the game tying shot to send it to OT. Only time it truly backfired.
 
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