ESPN talking heads this morning

Sooner81

Banned
Joined
Jan 7, 2018
Messages
477
Reaction score
0
Just watched, unfortunately, a short segment of them picking THEIR final four in and it is amazing the hate for our Sooners. They put up Lanardi and other experts, who year after year, pick 99% to 100% of the teams who will get in and all of those experts say OU is in. They then proceed to Not pick OU to get in. What a bunch of idiots. Several of them picked Arizona State to get in above OU although ASU finished 9th in a conference that is awful and will probably only get 2 or 3 in. So dumb!
 
There are 106 brackets on bracket matrix. OU is on 106.

And osu - not even among the last 4 out
 
They're simply picking teams based on how they are playing now...it was clearly obvious. And if you do that as your criteria, then I would totally agree...we don't get in.

HOWEVER, the committee is most likely NOT going to pick teams under that mind set.

The best analogy I have heard on this is, look at it like a golf tournament. OU shot a 65 the first 2 rounds, then shot a 75 then a 80. Overall, they still make the "cut" as opposed to teams that may have shot a 75, 75, 73, 70.

Now the 70 looks a LOT better than the guy who shot 80...but does that mean the guy who shot 80 shouldn't make the cut simply because his past 2 rounds haven't been as good????
 
Reece Davis, Jay, Seth, and Bilas all think OU is out and OSU might be in. Once humans start looking at this instead of computer models, might be the same.
 
Reece Davis, Jay, Seth, and Bilas all think OU is out and OSU might be in. Once humans start looking at this instead of computer models, might be the same.

Lanardi just told those 4 its not what you personally think - he predicts what the committee will do. He said the way the committee looks at it now, unlike in the past, is the entire season is important not what you have done lately. OU is in and we will probably win one and maybe two games - because of not having Big-12 refs and teams not having seen so much of TY. Of course we could get knocked out the first game but I believe there’s a better chance we win 1 or 2.
 
Setting aside whether we get in or not, what is it about OSU's season that causes people to say they won't get in?
 
Reece Davis, Jay, Seth, and Bilas all think OU is out and OSU might be in. Once humans start looking at this instead of computer models, might be the same.

Every member on the committee is a human. Every person who creates one of those brackets that shows up on bracketmatrix.com is a human. This notion that computers only are picking OU and human won't is absurd.
 
Sooners flat out don't belong. Computers can predict what they want, but humans will get it right. No way this team belongs.
 
Sooners flat out don't belong. Computers can predict what they want, but humans will get it right. No way this team belongs.

Computers can and should make the majority of these decisions. The fair way to do things is to eliminate emotion and only use the “eye test” to break ties. I 100% agree that OSU is better than OU, but OU should ABSOLUTELY and without question get a nod over OSU because our resume is stronger. The goal is not to put in the “best” teams; it’s to put in the most deserving teams based on their entire body of work.
 
Computers can and should make the majority of these decisions. The fair way to do things is to eliminate emotion and only use the “eye test” to break ties. I 100% agree that OSU is better than OU, but OU should ABSOLUTELY and without question get a nod over OSU because our resume is stronger. The goal is not to put in the “best” teams; it’s to put in the most deserving teams based on their entire body of work.

That’s a stupid goal tbh
 
Setting aside whether we get in or not, what is it about OSU's season that causes people to say they won't get in?

They have no business getting in. They went 8-10 in conference, and beat one at-large team in non-con (FSU). Literally the only reason they are getting tournament buzz from the media is that OU DOES have a tournament resume, but OSU went 2-1 against them.
 
Computers can and should make the majority of these decisions. The fair way to do things is to eliminate emotion and only use the “eye test” to break ties. I 100% agree that OSU is better than OU, but OU should ABSOLUTELY and without question get a nod over OSU because our resume is stronger. The goal is not to put in the “best” teams; it’s to put in the most deserving teams based on their entire body of work.

Why do you believe OSU is better than OU? Because they consistently lost throughout the season rather than backloading losses? OSU would have been a .500 team playing OU's schedule.
 
When the NCAA said to disregard the results of the teams last 10 games and look instead at the body of work for the entire decision. They were saying we don't want the best 64 teams as season's end. They were saying we want the 64 most qualified teams based on their entire body of work.

Theoretically that should work to the Sooners' advantage. But personally I would not vote them in. Any team that goes 4-11 to close the season needs to stay home.
 
When the NCAA said to disregard the results of the teams last 10 games and look instead at the body of work for the entire decision. They were saying we don't want the best 64 teams as season's end. They were saying we want the 64 most qualified teams based on their entire body of work.

Theoretically that should work to the Sooners' advantage. But personally I would not vote them in. Any team that goes 4-11 to close the season needs to stay home.

But then we need to outline the parameters. In this case, late season games ARE more important than early season games and this should be laid out so everyone knows the criteria. Maybe just only count games played after the New Year or something? Can’t have it both ways.
 
But then we need to outline the parameters. In this case, late season games ARE more important than early season games and this should be laid out so everyone knows the criteria. Maybe just only count games played after the New Year or something? Can’t have it both ways.

No way can you just count games after New Year lol. If you are gonna throw out a third of the season why play it. It’s like someone on here posted yesterday, its like golf, if someone shoots 65, 65, 72,80 - you don’t throw out the 2 65’s because they were early in the tourney. You have to take the whole tourney or Season together. If you did what you are suggesting no one would play anyone good in preseason - everyone would play dogs. You have to reward the teams like OU who went and played someone decent and won some of those.

OU played and beat Oregon and USC etc and deserves to be rewarded for that. Is OU playing well right now, no but if you use your process then just don’t play pre league games cut those 10-12 games out.
 
No way can you just count games after New Year lol. If you are gonna throw out a third of the season why play it. It’s like someone on here posted yesterday, its like golf, if someone shoots 65, 65, 72,80 - you don’t throw out the 2 65’s because they were early in the tourney. You have to take the whole tourney or Season together. If you did what you are suggesting no one would play anyone good in preseason - everyone would play dogs. You have to reward the teams like OU who went and played someone decent and won some of those.

OU played and beat Oregon and USC etc and deserves to be rewarded for that. Is OU playing well right now, no but if you use your process then just don’t play pre league games cut those 10-12 games out.

You just proved my point. Either it’s weighted equally or it isn’t. Can’t cherry pick. This is why I think two things:

1. OU stinks right now and isn’t one of the best 125 teams in country

2. They 100% deserve a bid and it shouldn’t even be a question. Their body of work is tourney worthy.

Both of these things can be true.
 
Back
Top