Food For Thought

[Oliver Hardy]

http://soonerstats.com/basketball/women/seasons/index.cfm

Review the stats. Are the stats/records enough to convince Joe C. a change is needed after this season?

I lean toward yes, but it isn’t exactly clear cut. A case could be made to give Sherri another year after this season.

Rumors appear to be growing. Just heard Oklahoman may be sniffing around about program future.


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[OUDallas66]

Sherri’s contract was extended in the summer of 2018 to run through June 30, 2022, by Joe.

 

[SKSooner]

No way you do fire a coach for missing the NCAA Tournament for the first time in like twenty years. That is absolutely crazy. Things are clearly not in good shape, but she deserves the opportunity to turn it around.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

Agreed. She does deserve a chance, but every loss makes it more difficult.

This isn’t just a down year. It’s much worse than that. It’s a total collapse.


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[OUDallas66]

In order to make the Big Dance we either need to win at least 8 of 11 conference games plus 2 in the Big 12 Tournament or win the Big 12 Tournament outright.

Which one of these two options will occur Sooner fans?

I saw Jan before the Baylor game, see looked good, pray for her continued recovery.

 

[Speedy17]

In order to make the Big Dance we either need to win at least 8 of 11 conference games plus 2 in the Big 12 Tournament or win the Big 12 Tournament outright.

Which one of these two options will occur Sooner fans?

I saw Jan before the Baylor game, see looked good, pray for her continued recovery.

Neither will happen. Hopefully, OU will win on Wednesday but I would expect much more.

As for Sherri, it is one thing to not make the tournament, it is another to go 5 and 20 something.

 

[sooner8]

In order to make the Big Dance we either need to win at least 8 of 11 conference games plus 2 in the Big 12 Tournament or win the Big 12 Tournament outright.

Which one of these two options will occur Sooner fans?

I saw Jan before the Baylor game, see looked good, pray for her continued recovery.

Sadly you didn't include a third option,(none of the above)Sherri was lucky to make the Big dance last year with a 16-15 record.

 

[annabelle]

this program has been going in the wrong direction for several seasons. w/l record,crowd attendance @ LNC......Sherri has had plenty of chances to right the ship imo....

 

[soonerstar]

this program has been going in the wrong direction for several seasons. w/l record,crowd attendance @ LNC......Sherri has had plenty of chances to right the ship imo....

+1 Time for a change.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

this program has been going in the wrong direction for several seasons. w/l record,crowd attendance @ LNC......Sherri has had plenty of chances to right the ship imo....

It is easy to let crowd size confuse us. Attendance is lousy about everywhere. It was pointed out that both Texas and Baylor are struggling on that. Just look at the images on TV for evidence. Don't get tricked by misleading attendance stats - many of those numbers never show up at the actual games.

In addition, the Thunder has seriously damaged all other spots teams in the area. Far too much money is being poured into a losing enterprise. They did not even have the intelligence to figure out that James Harden should have been kept here. Then KD leaves for greener pastures. They will never be all that good, but so much money is being wasted on them. They have even had to force all the tax payers in the area to fund even their concession stands. And all the money going to that losing enterprise has cost fans the ability to afford other sports teams.

Get rid of the losing thunder and you have greater success at OU and other colleges, high schools, etc.

 

[inoref]

It is easy to let crowd size confuse us. Attendance is lousy about everywhere. It was pointed out that both Texas and Baylor are struggling on that. Just look at the images on TV for evidence. Don't get tricked by misleading attendance stats - many of those numbers never show up at the actual games.

In addition, the Thunder has seriously damaged all other spots teams in the area. Far too much money is being poured into a losing enterprise. They did not even have the intelligence to figure out that James Harden should have been kept here. Then KD leaves for greener pastures. They will never be all that good, but so much money is being wasted on them. They have even had to force all the tax payers in the area to fund even their concession stands. And all the money going to that losing enterprise has cost fans the ability to afford other sports teams.

Get rid of the losing thunder and you have greater success at OU and other colleges, high schools, etc.

I agree about the thunder, I made a post in the men forum about how I feel the nba team has hurt college attendance here and was quickly called out but to each his/her own

 

[sdcloud9]

There is no doubt the Thunder has hurt attendance.

I have some friends that let their football tickets go for Thunder tickets.

 

[Soonerbay]

I agree about the thunder, I made a post in the men forum about how I feel the nba team has hurt college attendance here and was quickly called out but to each his/her own

The Thunder may have caused some attendance issues for OU MBB, but I don't recall the WBB program having attendance issues during their winning days; especially 2005-2010.

 

[SoonerSpock]

The Thunder may have caused some attendance issues for OU MBB, but I don't recall the WBB program having attendance issues during their winning days; especially 2005-2010.

The cost for season general admission tickets cost $120-$235 and only $80 for youth/senior citizens. Single game tickets are $10 and $8. OU MBB season tickets are $195-$560. Thunder season tickets cost $700-$8,000 depending on location.

I can see purchase of season Thunder tickets impeding any fan's puchase of OU or OSU MBB or WBB tickets but WBB tickets are a drop in the bucket relative to the other two tickets. Their cost should not be an obstacle to seeing any OU WBB game.

OU MBB and WBB permit movement from any area to any lower level vacant seat after the first timeout. I have had the lowest cost upper level tickets for decades and alway sit in the same lower level side line seat. In the last 10 years I have been bumped from that seat about a half dozen times as it is reserved seat sold to opponents fans and it normally returned.

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http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&&DB_OEM_ID=31000&ATCLID=208802897

http://thunderdigest.com/2018/02/21/thunder-raise-season-ticket-prices/

 

[gwydion]

The Thunder is a losing enterprise?

 

[SoonerSpock]

The Thunder is a losing enterprise?

Not likely. There are 30 teams in the NBA. For the last 5 seasons including 2018-19 YTD the Thunder ranked 13th, 5th, 10th, 8th and 5th in regular season wins. That is ranked an average of 8th for the 5 year period. A long way from a losing enterprise.

Some will alway preceive that anything but #1 is a losing enterprise. Unfortunately a preponderance of the opinions may think the same.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Not likely. There are 30 teams in the NBA. For the last 5 seasons including 2018-19 YTD the Thunder ranked 13th, 5th, 10th, 8th and 5th in regular season wins. That is ranked an average of 8th for the 5 year period. A long way from a losing enterprise.

Some will alway preceive that anything but #1 is a losing enterprise. Unfortunately a preponderance of the opinions may think the same.

My view of them as a losing enterprise is that they had to get the taxpayers of Oklahoma City in the last MAPS tax to pay for their concession stand improvements. If you cannot even provide the funds for that, you are a losing enterprise.

OU does not ask the taxpayers of Norman to pay for their concession stands. They do that through ticket sales, concession stand sales and donations.

That is my view. You are free to say taxpayers should fund their operations if you wish.

 

[SuperHoops]

My view of them as a losing enterprise is that they had to get the taxpayers of Oklahoma City in the last MAPS tax to pay for their concession stand improvements. If you cannot even provide the funds for that, you are a losing enterprise.

OU does not ask the taxpayers of Norman to pay for their concession stands. They do that through ticket sales, concession stand sales and donations.

That is my view. You are free to say taxpayers should fund their operations if you wish.

The Thunder don’t own the arena. There are hundreds of concerts and hockey games and other events held there every year that also benefit from the upgrades. And I don’t think that the Thunder even gets money from the concessions it goes to the companies that run the stands and leases them from the arena.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

The Thunder don’t own the arena. There are hundreds of concerts and hockey games and other events held there every year that also benefit from the upgrades. And I don’t think that the Thunder even gets money from the concessions it goes to the companies that run the stands and leases them from the arena.

I can tell you don't attend many other events there. Even at the Big-12 WBB tournament, the concession stands the taxpayers paid for are CLOSED at such events.

They are high grade- used for upper reserved areas of the facility as I understand it.

 

[SoonerSpock]

My view of them as a losing enterprise is that they had to get the taxpayers of Oklahoma City in the last MAPS tax to pay for their concession stand improvements. If you cannot even provide the funds for that, you are a losing enterprise.

OU does not ask the taxpayers of Norman to pay for their concession stands. They do that through ticket sales, concession stand sales and donations.

That is my view. You are free to say taxpayers should fund their operations if you wish.

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Difficult to call the Thunder a losing enterprise when they are good enough businessmen to get OKC to pay for the concessions. It would be bad business for them to expend more money setting up their operation than necessary.

Since eternity professional teams have solicited public funds for bringing a professional team to their city. Frequently cities find their expenditures a good financial decision for their city.