GAME 16 - OKLAHOMA (11-4) @ Texas A&M (12-3) 2:30pm CST on SECNETWORK

[oufree]

Xs and Os are extremely overrated. They play hard.



Yes, money is an issue. When you have to play all your marquee non-conference games on road/neutral site to generate money for NIL, it’s an issue.

Put a better product on the floor and the fans will show up

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

I'm legitimately curious. Now that Joe C is on the way out, does anyone know what Randall Stephenson's views on OU basketball are? Does he care?

Randall Stephenson has nothing to do with basketball except as chairman of the athletic director search committee. He is the CEO of football.

Not sure if he cares about hoops.

The name I've seen connected to the athletic director position is Rick Hart, formerly of SMU. Not sure if he's the guy, but I've seen his name floated. Former associate AD at OU. He was AD when the BMDs at SMU funded the renovation of Moody Coliseum. SMU was in a different place, as they were trying to get into a power conference. They eventually got from the American to the ACC after flirting with the old Pac-12.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Randall Stephenson has nothing to do with basketball except as chairman of the athletic director search committee. He is the CEO of football.

Not sure if he cares about hoops.

The name I've seen connected to the athletic director position is Rick Hart, formerly of SMU. Not sure if he's the guy, but I've seen his name floated. Former associate AD at OU. He was AD when the BMDs at SMU funded the renovation of Moody Coliseum. SMU was in a different place, as they were trying to get into a power conference. They eventually got from the American to the ACC after flirting with the old Pac-12.

Well SMU is currently a better basketball team than we are … although that’s a low bar lol. I just hope whoever makes the hire finds a good coach. The arena and all the other stuff is secondary to me. It’s so deflating going into every game knowing we are at a disadvantage on the sideline.

 

[BoulderSooner]

I'm legitimately curious. Now that Joe C is on the way out, does anyone know what Randall Stephenson's views on OU basketball are? Does he care?

well he is the CEO of Football so what does that tell you

 

[cvangild]

I'll take that bet.

I would too, but he won’t do it. Just talk.

 

[cvangild]

Really? A&M didn’t really impress me at all. I don’t think they finish in the top 5.

Edited to add: OSU beat them by 24.

I notice that too, and was shocked…but A&M shot horrible that game (32%), like we did against both ASU & mSU. You won’t beat anyone at this level shooting that poorly. OSU also only had 9 TO’s that game…we had 17…many of them dead ball situations and total mental lapses. At this level, a coach shouldn’t have to remind you how to inbound a ball…that’s JV stuff. As well as Reid played, he had 4 to’s.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I notice that too, and was shocked…but A&M shot horrible that game (32%), like we did against both ASU & mSU. You won’t beat anyone at this level shooting that poorly. OSU also only had 9 TO’s that game…we had 17…many of them dead ball situations and total mental lapses. At this level, a coach shouldn’t have to remind you how to inbound a ball…that’s JV stuff. As well as Reid played, he had 4 to’s.

I’d love to know what some of you think a coach should do or should be held responsible for. John Wooden taught his guys how to tie shoes. Saban and many other great coaches are known to be control freaks. Buttoned up coaches and teams go over all the details. Our coach stood by yesterday and provided no guidance for his team. No timeouts when the game was getting away from them. We had multiple disastrous possessions directly in front of our bench in the final 10 minutes, some of which resulted in turnovers and others of which ended in horrible shots. Not once did he call timeout. And when he finally used a couple late timeouts after the game was already close to being out of hand, he completely failed to come up with any play designs that led to good shots. Our only two baskets in the last serval minutes came off outbacks. Meanwhile, Bucky repeatedly found ways to exploit mismatches and get good looks for his team.

 

[cvangild]

I’d love to know what some of you think a coach should do or should be held responsible for. John Wooden taught his guys how to tie shoes. Saban and many other great coaches are known to be control freaks. Buttoned up coaches and teams go over all the details. Our coach stood by yesterday and provided no guidance for his team. No timeouts when the game was getting away from them. We had multiple disastrous possessions directly in front of our bench in the final 10 minutes, some of which resulted in turnovers and others of which ended in horrible shots. Not once did he call timeout. And when he finally used a couple late timeouts after the game was already close to being out of hand, he completely failed to come up with any play designs that led to good shots. Our only two baskets in the last serval minutes came off outbacks. Meanwhile, Bucky repeatedly found ways to exploit mismatches and get good looks for his team.

We don’t know if he goes over inbounds details or not. He does for all we know. And I never defended his coaching at the end of the game. It was terrible.

 

[WichitaSooner]

We don’t know if he goes over inbounds details or not. He does for all we know. And I never defended his coaching at the end of the game. It was terrible.

Fair point. But I guess my bottom line is, even if you go over stuff, if you don’t go over it well enough for it to sink in, you’re not doing it effectively. We just have seen so many examples in his five seasons of our guys making fundamental mistakes time and time again. Unless you think every player we have had over that time is a low basketball IQ player, it all points to coaching. He is the only common denominator. New players, new assistants, everything is different year to year except Moser.

 

[cvangild]

Fair point. But I guess my bottom line is, even if you go over stuff, if you don’t go over it well enough for it to sink in, you’re not doing it effectively. We just have seen so many examples in his five seasons of our guys making fundamental mistakes time and time again. Unless you think every player we have had over that time is a low basketball IQ player, it all points to coaching. He is the only common denominator. New players, new assistants, everything is different year to year except Moser.

I hear ya. The TO’s were the especially surprising to me, considering this team has actually done a great job of not turning the ball over this season. We still avg less than 10 TO’s a game, which I believe is 2nd lowest in the conference. I can’t recall the last OU team to avg a number that low…so it made the dead ball TO’s that more baffling.

 

[TEvans4Three]

14 transfers and a high school coach just kicked our butts. Way to go PM

I will not tolerate Bucky slander on this board...

My two candidates prior to Moser and in the midst of DePaul Gate were:

Grant MaCasland when we hired Moser
Bucky McMillan when it seemed Moser was out the door

I stand by my choices, Bucky is and will be a stud. Grant was the perfect regional hire.

Ugh, I am just tired of us not being coached well with no identity. I think we all are.

 

[soonertrash77]

I hear ya. The TO’s were the especially surprising to me, considering this team has actually done a great job of not turning the ball over this season. We still avg less than 10 TO’s a game, which I believe is 2nd lowest in the conference. I can’t recall the last OU team to avg a number that low…so it made the dead ball TO’s that more baffling.

Not baffling at all… our coach is awful. It took around 4 turnovers from their press when MMM called a TO and finally had a big run to the half court line to help out.

 

[BoulderSooner]

the defense just falls apart with out Wague on the court .. they have to play him ..

 

[cvangild]

Not baffling at all… our coach is awful. It took around 4 turnovers from their press when MMM called a TO and finally had a big run to the half court line to help out.

My point was this specific team hasn’t turned the ball over much this season. When’s the last time an OU team (any coach) has averaged less than 10 TO’s a game?? A pressing team will cause some TO’s, but the unforced TO’s were indeed baffling. We hadn’t done that all year. Porter’s first four teams here averaged the following in TO’s/game (14.9, 13.4, 12.5, 12.1), and only 9.9 this season. So yes, baffling to have 3 or 4 TO’s that were mental lapses. And it cost us.

After some quick research, this year’s team is averaging the lowest TO’s/game than any OU team over the past 20+ years. Most of Lon’s teams averaged 13+.

 

[steverocks35]

You don’t turn the ball over much when you play teams in the 200-300s

 

[cvangild]

You don’t turn the ball over much when you play teams in the 200-300s

True, but we've played teams like that every year...and still averaged a lot more TO's than this season. Right?