Georges Niang returning for senior season

I think it's silly to factor in out of state tuition unless it's a school like Duke, which is actually a high-quality school. For a school like ISU...

Unless you start throwing in insane out of state tuition numbers, it's going to be fairly close to minimum wage. For guys like Blake, the "education" he was receiving was of no value, and it was really only adding to his "work" hours.

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I think it's silly to factor in out of state tuition unless it's a school like Duke, which is actually a high-quality school. For a school like ISU...

Unless you start throwing in insane out of state tuition numbers, it's going to be fairly close to minimum wage. For guys like Blake, the "education" he was receiving was of no value, and it was really only adding to his "work" hours.

Education has no value? What a crazy thing to say.

Duke doesn't have out of state tuition.

Minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. A 40 hour week would be $290. A 52 week year would be $15,080. OU estimates the cost of tuition, room and board and books at $19,121 for instate students. This factors in no cost for coaching, use of facilities, the better standard of living given to athletes, medical treatment, tutoring, equipment, etc. It also ignores out of state tuition.

The players do not spend 40 hours a week playing sports and the season (including preseason) is not 52 weeks. The actual basketball season is less than 7 months. At minimum wage 7 months is $8,796.66. The players are getting a lot more than minimum wage.
 
I swear Niang is in his 30's and has played for Iowa State for at least 15 years. He's been there forever.
 
Education has no value? What a crazy thing to say.

Duke doesn't have out of state tuition.

Minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. A 40 hour week would be $290. A 52 week year would be $15,080. OU estimates the cost of tuition, room and board and books at $19,121 for instate students. This factors in no cost for coaching, use of facilities, the better standard of living given to athletes, medical treatment, tutoring, equipment, etc. It also ignores out of state tuition.

The players do not spend 40 hours a week playing sports and the season (including preseason) is not 52 weeks. The actual basketball season is less than 7 months. At minimum wage 7 months is $8,796.66. The players are getting a lot more than minimum wage.

this also doesn't include the now year round unlimited food ..
 
Yes, it is. In no way was I insinuating that players should be paid in college, and I said multiple times that that was irrelevant to my argument.

Not sure why people are so fired up that it's better to play for free in college than to get paid somewhere
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You said they play for free.
 

Not sure why people are so fired up that it's better to play for free in college than to get paid somewhere
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You said they play for free.

Again, you're arguing semantics, which is irrelevant to the argument I'm making. If players want to be paid, they need to go pro.
 
Again, you're arguing semantics, which is irrelevant to the argument I'm making. If players want to be paid, they need to go pro.

What you fail to understand is that they are being paid. The money just doesn't hit their hands before it hits their meal tickets, their dorm room or apt bill, or their tuition fees, or their trainer Bill, or their books, or their cable bill, etc...

He doesn't make the league and he goes and plays Europe ball...You act like he's going to be a millionaire.
 
What you fail to understand is that they are being paid. The money just doesn't hit their hands before it hits their meal tickets, their dorm room or apt bill, or their tuition fees, or their trainer Bill, or their books, or their cable bill, etc...

He doesn't make the league and he goes and plays Europe ball...You act like he's going to be a millionaire.


I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand that he is getting zero cash right now, while he would be getting 6 figures plus playing in Europe. You can argue semantics all you want, but that has been the point the entire time.
 
I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand that he is getting zero cash right now, while he would be getting 6 figures plus playing in Europe. You can argue semantics all you want, but that has been the point the entire time.

for one the 0 cash .. is simply not true ..
 
He doesn't make the league and he goes and plays Europe ball...You act like he's going to be a millionaire.

It's possible. Remember Keith Langford at KU? He made $2.3MM playing in Europe in 2011 and continues to be a top European player. Jordan Farmar who is now an NBA role player signed a 3-year $10.5MM contract to play in Istanbul. A lot of US players that are willing to play internationally can make good money.

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Keith Langford
 
It's possible. Remember Keith Langford at KU? He made $2.3MM playing in Europe in 2011 and continues to be a top European player. Jordan Farmar who is now an NBA role player signed a 3-year $10.5MM contract to play in Istanbul. A lot of US players that are willing to play internationally can make good money.

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Keith Langford

Sure. But let's look at all the other solid college players that aren't.
 
Education has no value? What a crazy thing to say.

That's certainly not what I said. I'm saying that the "education" that Blake received is worth nothing. Having only been here two years, I doubt he was even close to getting his degree, and even if he did have his degree, I'm betting what he majored in won't help him land a job. Blake even said he didn't want to go to classes while he was here, so I hardly count that as compensation. In reality, it was just an extra requirement of his "job."

Minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. A 40 hour week would be $290. A 52 week year would be $15,080. OU estimates the cost of tuition, room and board and books at $19,121 for instate students. This factors in no cost for coaching, use of facilities, the better standard of living given to athletes, medical treatment, tutoring, equipment, etc. It also ignores out of state tuition.

Like I said, for most of these guys going on to play in the NBA, the classes aren't benefiting them; it just adds to their schedule. If you think OU athletes are spending 40 hours a week or less between their classes, practices, games, workouts, film sessions, etc., then you have no idea what their schedules are like. I'm also unsure why you decided to ignore all the off-season workouts. They certainly aren't napping all day long.

For some players, like Gabe Ikard, who plan to go on to med school someday with their degrees, they were getting decent pay (but still not great). For guys like Blake, Adrian, Sam, etc....no way.
 
He doesn't make the league and he goes and plays Europe ball...You act like he's going to be a millionaire.

Sure. But let's look at all the other solid college players that aren't.

OK, but you can't dismiss it as a possibility….. you can't act like there is no chance Niang (or Buddy) can eventually be a millionaire playing basketball internationally. Former Sooner Ebe Ere has had a nice career overseas. Former Midwest City player, Shelden Williams, is making over $1MM/year in China where many Americans are earning $1-$3MM/year. A lot of players can make good money internationally but give it up because they tire of the cultural challenges. Hollis Price gave it up to get into coaching.

Heck, China is a hot destination for players now as this article states: China Basketball
 
Not many will get paid by the million, but most starters in the Big XII could get close to 6-figures. And by close, I mean the $80,000 range. I'd imagine that's above the median salary among college grads on this board.
 
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