Give Booker some credit tonight

[BCSooners]

Played extremely well. It's funny that when shooters are hitting they play so much harder and the rest of their game follows suit. You would think that if they weren't hitting you should play even harder to make up for it in some other way. But nobody really does that.

 

[Northbase]

He must be shooting great in practice all the time or else Lon wouldn't give him the green light as he does. At some point as a coach you just hope that players are able to make the transition from practice habits to real game situations. Maybe it is finally happening for him.

 

[SoonerJK12]

One thing I noticed the other night was Booker's demeanor. He seemed more serious. More focused. More in control. I liked it.

 

[DenverSooner]

He must be shooting great in practice all the time or else Lon wouldn't give him the green light as he does. At some point as a coach you just hope that players are able to make the transition from practice habits to real game situations. Maybe it is finally happening for him.

He doesn't have the green light all the time. I have seen Kruger pull him numerous times over bad decisions. Kruger is trying to teach him through positive reinforcement how to make good decisions. If you haven't noticed, Kruger is all about positive reinforcement.

 

[garyeb2]

He doesn't have the green light all the time. I have seen Kruger pull him numerous times over bad decisions. Kruger is trying to teach him through positive reinforcement how to make good decisions. If you haven't noticed, Kruger is all about positive reinforcement.

Wouldn't being pulled when you make a mistake be the definition of negative reinforcement?

 

[SoonerJK12]

Wouldn't being pulled when you make a mistake be the definition of negative reinforcement?

Operant conditioning while seemingly simple is really confusing. It took me years to really understand it.

This is actually the definition of negative punishment. Reinforcement/punishment refers to whether to you want to increase (reinforce) or decrease (punish) a behavior. Positive/negative refers to whether you are giving (positive) or taking something away (negative).

Negative punishment - Kruger decreases bad shot selection by taking away playing time from Booker.

Kruger does use positive reinforcement, however. For example:

Positive reinforcement - Kruger increases good shot selection by giving Booker more playing time.

Obviously, these two are the sides of the same coin. The key is to be consistent as a coach (don't give playing time for bad basketball, dont take away playing time for good basketball)-- which Kruger is.

^^I don't mean to be a jerk by providing this information. I was motivated because this actually confused me for a long time.

 

[campbest]

No shooter wants to live in a world where heat checks aren't allowed.

 

[WTSooner]

No shooter wants to live in a world where heat checks aren't allowed.

This.

There are bad shots, and there are bad shots after you just drilled two threes the last two trips down the floor. Those shots are not equally bad.

 

[garyeb2]

Operant conditioning while seemingly simple is really confusing. It took me years to really understand it.

This is actually the definition of negative punishment. Reinforcement/punishment refers to whether to you want to increase (reinforce) or decrease (punish) a behavior. Positive/negative refers to whether you are giving (positive) or taking something away (negative).

Negative punishment - Kruger decreases bad shot selection by taking away playing time from Booker.

Kruger does use positive reinforcement, however. For example:

Positive reinforcement - Kruger increases good shot selection by giving Booker more playing time.

Obviously, these two are the sides of the same coin. The key is to be consistent as a coach (don't give playing time for bad basketball, dont take away playing time for good basketball)-- which Kruger is.

^^I don't mean to be a jerk by providing this information. I was motivated because this actually confused me for a long time.

Negative reinforcement is the removal of an unpleasant experience when a desired response occurs. Pulling Frank when he takes a bad shot is the textbook definition of negative reinforcement.

you may be well qualified to make a good argument on this point. But, your difference is with Mr. Webster, not me.

 

[garyeb2]

No shooter wants to live in a world where heat checks aren't allowed.

Of course they don't. Why would they? But, that is the reason we have coaches who sit them down after taking a bad shot.

 

[BoulderSooner]

fyi .. booker is now shooting a very respectable .364 from 3 in conf play

 

[okienole3]

This.

There are bad shots, and there are bad shots after you just drilled two threes the last two trips down the floor. Those shots are not equally bad.

This was my point.

 

[Sooner04]

No, no ,no. When booker sets his feet and shoots in rhythm he is a great shooter. When he forces thing he is below average. Play smart basketball or sit on the bench. Frank playe smart basketball last night. Especially on the play I reference earlier. He followed a good decision with a great play where his feet were set and he shot in rhythm. It was beautiful.

I'm afraid you're unfamiliar with the term "heat check".

If Frank Booker is hot enough to be taking a "heat check" then LK has no problem with ANY shot that comes from it.

 

[DenverSooner]

I'm afraid you're unfamiliar with the term "heat check".

If Frank Booker is hot enough to be taking a "heat check" then LK has no problem with ANY shot that comes from it.

Not anymore. Checking to see just how hot he is.

I agree there is a difference but I wouldn't like a heat check shot if I were the coach. I want shots with feet set and in rhythm. Those are the ones that go in at close to 50% for good shooters. It is the bad shots (feet not set, not in rhythm) that pull their averages down to 36%. Bad shots are always available and should not be taken unless the shot clock is low in my opinion.

 

[BCSooners]

Negative reinforcement is the removal of an unpleasant experience when a desired response occurs. Pulling Frank when he takes a bad shot is the textbook definition of negative reinforcement.

you may be well qualified to make a good argument on this point. But, your difference is with Mr. Webster, not me.

Negative reinforcement would be taking away sprints the next day of practice from the person who graded out the highest defensively.