Henry

[Ham]

To me, for whatever it's worth, I get the impression that one of two things are going to happen and not both. Blair staying would mean no Henry and Blair leaving leaves that door open for Henry or a potential transfer (from elsewhere). Because if Blair stays, then there is only 1 scholly, which currently seems like it's going to one of those JUCO post guys.

So, if that has merit, Henry coming or not is almost a toss-up they could take or leave.

 

[globecode]

Sawyer, are the rules different for basketball and football?

OU had a player who needed some HS credit to qualify for OU and took those classes at a JUCO, before enrolling. He never played football for the JUCO.

 

[campbest]

Let's see...couldn't qualify out of high school for New Mexico, went to prep school. Couldn't qualify out of prep school for OU, is now going to junior college. There is a pattern here, kid does not take care of business in the classroom and will now be in a setting where there is less supervision than he previously had.

Time for Lon to let this one go, pick up a transfer in the next couple months or a quality big next year.

 

[OKURanger]

Let's see...couldn't qualify out of high school for New Mexico, went to prep school. Couldn't qualify out of prep school for OU, is now going to junior college. There is a pattern here, kid does not take care of business in the classroom and will now be in a setting where there is less supervision than he previously had.

Time for Lon to let this one go, pick up a transfer in the next couple months or a quality big next year.

I tend to agree with this sentiment.

 

[vbdad]

He is at El Reno right now. He is taking a bunch of hours this semester and plans to take a full summer load which actually has two sessions and then go next fall. This is the equivalent of 4 semesters which is what he needs to graduate. He would then be eligible to play second semester next year. This is his plan.
Now I agree a guy with academic issues may have trouble doing this much work in one year. You never know when the light comes on with a kid though.
He passed what he needed to at prep school but the NCAA clearinghouse rejected the class as a core credit.

 

[dubyac]

I hope he makes it.. adding a skilled 6'9" to the roster in time for conference play could be a real boost!

 

[MsProudSooner]

He passed what he needed to at prep school but the NCAA clearinghouse rejected the class as a core credit.

It's a shame that the NCAA doesn't evaluate a class in advance so a student will know what to take that will satisfy the NCAA.


What am I thinking? That would mean that the NCAA actually cared about the welfare of the individual students.

 

[campbest]

He is at El Reno right now. He is taking a bunch of hours this semester and plans to take a full summer load which actually has two sessions and then go next fall. This is the equivalent of 4 semesters which is what he needs to graduate. He would then be eligible to play second semester next year. This is his plan.
Now I agree a guy with academic issues may have trouble doing this much work in one year. You never know when the light comes on with a kid though.
He passed what he needed to at prep school but the NCAA clearinghouse rejected the class as a core credit.

I'm just not buying it, hope he proves me wrong but that is a TON of courses for an individual who has demonstrated an inability to become eligible. Unfortunate that his class was rejected as a core credit, but just further shows his inability to be proactive when it comes to the academic side...every move has been reactionary. Will also add, how is he going to stay eligible at OU? Is it worth the risk that he will flunk out at semester some year and leave us with a void going into conference?

Also curious how that sets up as four semesters...full load in the spring (15 hours), summer courses (15 hours, assumed an intersession, two in early summer, two in late summer) and fall (15 hours). Maybe this particular JUCO has a different set-up than I am familiar with.

 

[campbest]

It's a shame that the NCAA doesn't evaluate a class in advance so a student will know what to take that will satisfy the NCAA.


What am I thinking? That would mean that the NCAA actually cared about the welfare of the individual students.

Tend to agree with you on the NCAA, however, it is pretty far fetched to believe that they can review every course offered by high schools, prep schools and junior colleges.

 

[CoachTalk]

Its not hard to be eligible. English, math, science, and History... Then its BLOW off classes! With online classes now being offered, summer school at every high school etc...
Man I hope he makes it, but it doesnt seem like the effort is there at all...

 

[WTSooner]

I hope he makes it.. adding a skilled 6'9" to the roster in time for conference play could be a real boost!

He isn't overly skilled. He is a tremendous athlete, but I see just about no chance of him playing if he comes in mid-year.

 

[campbest]

He isn't overly skilled. He is a tremendous athlete, but I see just about no chance of him playing if he comes in mid-year.

Yet another reason...probably won't contribute until the Fall of 2013 at the earliest and that's only if he plays as a freshman.

 

[dahldennsull]

For those wondering how he would remain eligible at OU while he can't do it at other places I will say this. Yes the classes get harder than JUCO courses, but he has NO WHERE near the resources available to him right now that he will at OU. OU does a great job of setting their athletes up to succeed. That's why I get very frustrated at guys on campus becoming ineligible. Tutors for anything you can ask for, guidance for research and projects you may have. They know they didn't get into OU academically, and really help them out quite a bit.

 

[DenverSooner]

It is not like college is particularly hard. Go to class, pay attention while in class, read the book and study just a little for a test and you should make good grades. What makes college hard is the immaturity of the students. They skip class, don't pay attention when they go, don't read the books and don't study for the tests until the last second. When you do that, you get bad grades.

I would virtually guaranty I could get 90% of the kids at OU making good grades if they would actually try to make good grades. I do realize some people don't have the ability but most that get in do.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

It is not like college is particularly hard. Go to class, pay attention while in class, read the book and study just a little for a test and you should make good grades. What makes college hard is the immaturity of the students. They skip class, don't pay attention when they go, don't read the books and don't study for the tests until the last second. When you do that, you get bad grades.

I would virtually guaranty I could get 90% of the kids at OU making good grades if they would actually try to make good grades. I do realize some people don't have the ability but most that get in do.

This is very true. I thought college was hard until I actually put some effort into it. Then it became surprisingly easy [except for statistics, that class sucked].

 

[Sawyer]

Its not hard to be eligible. English, math, science, and History... Then its BLOW off classes! With online classes now being offered, summer school at every high school etc...
Man I hope he makes it, but it doesnt seem like the effort is there at all...

This attitude is why a lot of guys don't qualify.

Those blowoff classes don't matter. The NCAA only looks at the core classes. The idea that those blowoff classes can help you is wrong.

 

[CoachTalk]

This attitude is why a lot of guys don't qualify.

Those blowoff classes don't matter. The NCAA only looks at the core classes. The idea that those blowoff classes can help you is wrong.

Hints why I said English, Math, Science and History... CORE classes. You have to have electives (blow off classes)

 

[campbest]

It is not like college is particularly hard. Go to class, pay attention while in class, read the book and study just a little for a test and you should make good grades. What makes college hard is the immaturity of the students. They skip class, don't pay attention when they go, don't read the books and don't study for the tests until the last second. When you do that, you get bad grades.

I would virtually guaranty I could get 90% of the kids at OU making good grades if they would actually try to make good grades. I do realize some people don't have the ability but most that get in do.

...and high school is easier.

 

[Sawyer]

You have to have electives (blow off classes)

Which don't factor into the NCAA's formula on qualifying.