ISU Lawsuit??

SoonerSpock said:
I have attached that part of the article referenced in my comments that should explain what I meant by my comments.

I don’t know if Fennelly is racist in the conventional sense, but I do know if you are not a favorite, he has no compunction about attacking you in racial terms. I witnessed it and others did as well. The truth of the matter is Fennelly will attack a player he doesn’t like on any terms. I do not believe him to be evil, but he can be very cruel. I don’t believe he has any remorse, because he tells himself, and his team, he is doing it to make a player better. Those players that are favorites, take him at his word, because for them it’s true. He only pushes them to be better. However, those of us on the wrong side, the non-favorites, get pushed around simply because he can. He seems to take pleasure in it. I was not made better by Fennelly on the floor or anywhere else.

I am stronger for having survived him, but that’s about all I can say.

So, how can the former players supporting him be telling the truth? Because for them, he will do anything. He does consider them family. He does treat them with love and respect and he does help them believe in themselves. How can the fans supporting him be telling the truth as well? Because he always puts his best foot forward publicly. And because you, as a fan, only see what Fennelly wants you to see. Nevertheless, there are others, like me, who have had a very different experience with Fennelly. Please consider, before you attack Moody for what I’m certain you don’t understand, there may only be truth and no lies. For my part, I believe all the players and fans who have commented, including Moody. There is plenty of truth to go around.


In essence one's perception of the truth allows one to tell the truth as they see it whether factual or not.
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Yes, I understood that but wasn't sure you were talking about the players having different truths or Moody and Fennelly having different truths. The players having experiences which could lead to different truths seems reasonable in this instance, but from the article it would appear more difficult to believe Moody and Fennelly would. Unless, these were just two isolated incidents and Fennelly didn't perceive his treatment of some players as unjust, bigoted, etc. And I am not saying that this one letter plus Moody's suit gives us the truth, but I feel the University is going to settle. Especially if anyone else backs up her story. Anyway, I was just curious as to what you were saying re who had different truths.

I hate these situations but imagine they happen more than we know. Both coaches treating players unfairly, but also players sometimes having a bad attitude. And sometimes, coaches and players are not going to click and that can make for a long four years for both.
 
sybarite said:
Let's say that I taught English grammar. Would it be appropriate to insult a student in order to improve the student's performance? I don't exactly know when that has been an effective technique. If it were, would it be an appropriate technique? Why would it be acceptable in sports? When coaches yelled, I assumed that it was because they were incapable of making a logical argument. The successful ones didn't.
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Good points. I have to think most yell at times but personal insults are a different thing.
 
MsProudSooner said:
Or, has someone else influenced her since her eligibility is over. I don't know if she has professional basketball aspirations, but this can't help them.
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She was the 33rd selection by San Antonio. I would guess she is not going to
make the cut this year. She might work at her game and come back and make a team but that is pretty late in the draft to make the cut this year, don't you think? Not saying it is impossible, just not likely.
 
womenssports said:
Yes, I understood that but wasn't sure you were talking about the players having different truths or Moody and Fennelly having different truths. The players having experiences which could lead to different truths seems reasonable in this instance, but from the article it would appear more difficult to believe Moody and Fennelly would. Unless, these were just two isolated incidents and Fennelly didn't perceive his treatment of some players as unjust, bigoted, etc. And I am not saying that this one letter plus Moody's suit gives us the truth, but I feel the University is going to settle. Especially if anyone else backs up her story. Anyway, I was just curious as to what you were saying re who had different truths.

I hate these situations but imagine they happen more than we know. Both coaches treating players unfairly, but also players sometimes having a bad attitude. And sometimes, coaches and players are not going to click and that can make for a long four years for both.
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In the real world perception frequently is that truth is in the eyes of the beholder and hence the need for a judicial system.
 
SoonerSpock said:
In the real world perception frequently is that truth is in the eyes of the beholder and hence the need for a judicial system.
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Agree. I believe we all need a mirror held-up to
ourselves at times, especially when we are younger. It can sometimes take
too many years to understand how you sound and act
in certain situations. I know I would like to go back
and realize some things at a much earlier age. Not that I don't have to say to myself at times now, okay I will just do better tomorrow.
 
womenssports said:
Agree. I believe we all need a mirror held-up to
ourselves at times, especially when we are younger. It can sometimes take
too many years to understand how you sound and act
in certain situations. I know I would like to go back
and realize some things at a much earlier age. Not that I don't have to say to myself at times now, okay I will just do better tomorrow.
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Personally I think most of the problems we have in life occur from be unfortunate to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, happenstance. Generally the other problems can be resolved by getting in front of a mirror and having a good conversion about the solution needed.
 
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