NCAA APR is out, update on OU men's hoops?

[atlantasooner]

According to this article linked on the Women's Board.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2011-05-24-apr-punishment-connecticut_N.htm

APR is out for determining scholarship reductions. Uconn got dinged.

Just wondering if OU's men's team was looking at scholarship reduction with all the turnovers/transfers.

 

[okcsooner83]

https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/apr2010/522_2010_apr.pdfOU is okay.

 

[p230]

Would Longar and Hollis graduation this year be considered going forward?

 

[atlantasooner]

P230,
Longar might, but we are so far away from Hollis being tracked by APR I think.

The most disturbing sign is that OU for 2009-2010 is at 926, barely above the 925 danger mark and the NCAA is going to move the mark to 930.
And with all the attrition, you worry about 2010-2011/2011-2012 being worse than 926, so our average will start to hit the danger zone.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

Would Longar and Hollis graduation this year be considered going forward?

No.

Actual graduations are not even considered in the APR calculations.

The APR is a measure of a team's Academic Progress Rate. It is NOT a graduation rate.

Here is the calculation process:

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/Misc_Commit...ethod_Quarter_Calculation_Explanation_805.pdf


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[boksooner]

Guerin Emig's blog about it is interesting. OU looks pretty good, despite the turnover. The APR has actually gone up every year under Capel.

Jeff Capel has taken considerable heat around here lately. What say we grant him this much: The program’s APR for 2005-06, Kelvin Sampson’s final year as coach, was 897. Under Capel, the Sooners’ rate climbed to 911, 926 and 948 before hitting the current 959.

http://209.184.242.1/blogs/sportspo...el_was_no_Calhoun_much_to_OUs_relief/12-11485

 

[p230]

Thanks for the numbers. I would not have guessed that about Capel's time here. Kudos to him for putting us in a good position there.

 

[DenverSooner]

I did not read all the links but it seems crazy to me that graduation is not a factor in evaluating the academic progress of a college sports program. The old rules were poorly designed in that transfers were punative but I would think the NCAA wants kids to graduate. Very few college athletes make the pros and even those that do rarely have careers long enough to set them up for life (especially given the lifestyles they tend to lead while a professional).

Personally, I think the NBA should offer guys a standard deal that pays their tuition if they go early and then the schools should get a waiver from counting a player that leaves early provided he graduates within X years of quitting playing professional basketball (including over seas - some guys might play a few years in the NBA and then go somewhere else. They should not be asked to pass on good money to finish school when they can do that later).

 

[SilliSooner]

I did not read all the links but it seems crazy to me that graduation is not a factor in evaluating the academic progress of a college sports program. The old rules were poorly designed in that transfers were punative but I would think the NCAA wants kids to graduate. Very few college athletes make the pros and even those that do rarely have careers long enough to set them up for life (especially given the lifestyles they tend to lead while a professional).

Personally, I think the NBA should offer guys a standard deal that pays their tuition if they go early and then the schools should get a waiver from counting a player that leaves early provided he graduates within X years of quitting playing professional basketball (including over seas - some guys might play a few years in the NBA and then go somewhere else. They should not be asked to pass on good money to finish school when they can do that later).

Sounds like that might reward the one-and-done mills.