Off Topic - Paterno

[bgrch1350]

I agree that they should get punished and punished severely. My points were more of does the athletic department as a whole get the hammer or just the football program. To place it all on the football program seems unfair to me.

This predator could have been stopped several children ago...and Paterno and others turned a blind eye FOR THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM. These children were abused b/c of not just a person but b/c people who could have done something about it preferred to protect their football program over these kids. The Football Program deserves to be abused too...it needs to be locked away for awhile. If Joe Pa was alive...he would most likely be spending his last years in prison. And the thing that he chose to protect over these young defenseless children needs to be joining him.

The punishment for Penn St football program should be an either/or situation and thats dismantle the program for a couple of years or don't do anything to it. If the NCAA gets involved, it better to be to give the program the death penalty. B/c anything else is another slap to those victims. These victims deserve better than loss of scholarships, or bowl bans, or recruiting restrictions...that would just be pointless.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

These kinds of things can help get a coach fired ...

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-02-10/news/mn-2655_1_oklahoma-players

:OUbball-logo:

 

[Perk's Scowl]

The punishment should be on Joe Paterno, the athletic director, and the board. I completely agree that Paterno should have gone to the police. I think the turning of the check was to protect Paterno's legacy, not to protect the football program.

I feel that Penn State was protecting Joe's image and legacy way more than protecting the football program. I understand that Joe Paterno was the epitome of Penn State football, but the players, donors, and other coaches don't deserve to be hit with the death penalty. Just my opinion.

A major problem in this whole thing is that Paterno basically became a saint or god in Happy Valley. If you have ever been up there, you understand how different the place is compared to anywhere else. There is literally nothing there except the school.

 

[Perk's Scowl]

These kinds of things can help get a coach fired ...

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-02-10/news/mn-2655_1_oklahoma-players

:OUbball-logo:

My roommate is a massive Nebraska fan. He hates Switzer because he thinks he cheated (but somehow thinks Osbourne is the best human ever).

I think this entire situation looks good on OU. Switzer got "canned" for way less than anything Sandusky or Paterno did. If anyone in the history of OU was on the level of worship that Penn State had for Paterno, it was Switzer. When Switzer got in trouble, he was gone. Penn State kept Paterno with no qualms about the rapist Sandusky.

 

[bocabull]

Arizona States president was interviewed today and when asked he said there definitely will be sanctions. Said they should be severe and mentioned the death penalty. Said PSU lost track of what they are supposed to be doing as an institution and should be made an example of.

 

[BoulderSooner]

But the NCAA has an ethics clause and requires institutional control. Allowing the football program to trump the law seems a blatant violation of any ethical standard and a lack of institutional control.

I think the football program should be shut down. To not take action is like saying it is acceptable for a school to ignore the law in order to protect the reputation of its football program. That is the wrong message and might encourage others to repeat this behavior.

Something to consider is what did Baylor do to get on probation? I really don't know but I know one player killed another and the coach (not the whole school) did some very questionable things.

if the football program is shut down that pretty much would shut down all sports at penn st

 

[NickZepp]

What's so shocking is that this is Paterno. He had this image built up his entire career about being clean, doing things the right way. Players having high graduation rates etc. If I told you a legendary coach was having something like this happen you would name Switzer, Bobby Bowden, heck even modern coaches like Nick Saben or Urban Meyer before naming Joe Pa. It's clear that his image that he built up for over 30 years was a complete fraud. He was just about winning at all costs and didn't care if one of his coaches was raping kids. That's about as offensive a mistake as you can make at a job where you are teaching some kids as young as 16 or 17.

 

[Shooterms]

The very simple fact of the matter is that Penn State needs to be made an example. They are perfect for it, because they were seen as being the absolute cleanest of clean. Instead, they had elevated, in their minds, in the whole culture of the university and program, an importance that superseded that of young lives, and for 14 years.
That should never happen again, and any and every entity that can punish them, should, not simply because they deserve punishment, but so that this notion of a college sports program being that important, is wrecked for good.