OU at Vanderbilt

[Tom4OU]

My guess is OU spent most if not all their $$$ on Chavez

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Not a guess. And they’ll have to do it again to keep her.

 

[bob the nailer]

Officials would deny this, but Beers has gotten a reputation with officials as committing offensive fouls and so they watch her more closely. It appeared to me the Vandy girl fouled her first right before the flagrant, and there was no call and she got frustrated. Can't foul out with 3/5 fouls being offensive. And I never envisioned a game where Aaliyah would go 0/11 and Verhulst would make her first and then go 0/5 from 3 after that.

 

[Lexsooner]

Beers is getting hammered and then they call the dumb push off after she is getting held and pushed on it’s frustrating.

 

[Tom4OU]

Beers is getting hammered and then they call the dumb push off after she is getting held and pushed on it’s frustrating.

She does get hammered.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

She does get hammered.

Our whole team was getting hammered. If you go back and look at the last few seconds of the 3rd quarter, the Vandy girl with the mask, literally hammered Chavez. She knocked her down on the court - from behind - in an extremely hard, rough, inexcusable manner and not one official called the foul. It was absurd. That foul is the exact way you foul in a way to seriously injure a player and possibly cause them to need serious medical help. The fact that no foul was called tells you all you need to know about how the game was called.

If you look at the statistics, you will see that Vanderbilt won the game on the free throw line.

 

[Tom4OU]

Our whole team was getting hammered. If you go back and look at the last few seconds of the 3rd quarter, the Vandy girl with the mask, literally hammered Chavez. She knocked her down on the court - from behind - in an extremely hard, rough, inexcusable manner and not one official called the foul. It was absurd. That foul is the exact way you foul in a way to seriously injure a player and possibly cause them to need serious medical help. The fact that no foul was called tells you all you need to know about how the game was called.

If you look at the statistics, you will see that Vanderbilt won the game on the free throw line.

I saw her on the ground but thought she just fell weird. I was told a couple of weeks ago the officiating at their house is atrocious.

 

[cowboysooner]

Man, our 3 point shooting is head scratching weird. Crazy good and then crazy bad. Against Vandy, we had the right players shooting the 3, but they never came within 2 feet of making one (I guess Peyton made one). Our inconsistency is bizarre to say the least.

Beers is playing well in my opinion. I like the physical way she plays. She just needs to understand everyone is going to "flop" or exaggerate any contact with her and be a little more careful. Of course, everyone can play better. But, I sure don't see Beers as one of the problems with this team.

The issue is defense or the lack there of. We are so fundamentally unsound on defense it is a testament to the team that they win like they do. They work hard on defense and I think the effort is there. So, that is good. Jennie's kids don't get out worked. But, that is about all you can say about it. We are just going to have to out score folks and hope they don't shoot open shots as well as Vandy.

Vandy scored about 100 points and I never saw a single perimeter shot taken by them that I considered properly "guarded". We ran at shooters. That is about it. That is the opposite of properly guarding IMO. You want to be "under" perimeter players forcing them dribble and shoot guarded 2 point shots. And we just aren't playing dribble penetration correctly IMO.

In the old days when there was defensive contact on a dribbler going to the basket and/or a player "reached" across the body of a dribbler to slap the ball, a foul was called. Before there was a 3 point line, I get helping. stop dribble penetration But, in the modern era, just get physical early and reroute dribblers, overplay their dominate hand, use "reaching across and slapping the arm/hand dribbling the ball, and while reaching create an arm bar slowing the dribbler. (see Texas as an example). All of these things are still totally illegal according to the rule book but perfectly legal as the game is currently called. If Jennie and Porter were college offensive line coaches, they wouldn't instruct on how to hold a defensive player inside the shoulders as it is against the rules.

Jennie and Porter don't have their kids guarding screeners to "hedge" the player coming off the screen. The net result is we give up an open shot to the kid coming off the screen every single time. I think I know why they don't. What ever the reason, it drives me batty spending an entire game watching our opponents shoot nothing but open shots.

 

[Tom4OU]

Man, our 3 point shooting is head scratching weird. Crazy good and then crazy bad. Against Vandy, we had the right players shooting the 3, but they never came within 2 feet of making one (I guess Peyton made one). Our inconsistency is bizarre to say the least.

Beers is playing well in my opinion. I like the physical way she plays. She just needs to understand everyone is going to "flop" or exaggerate any contact with her and be a little more careful. Of course, everyone can play better. But, I sure don't see Beers as one of the problems with this team.

The issue is defense or the lack there of. We are so fundamentally unsound on defense it is a testament to the team that they win like they do. They work hard on defense and I think the effort is there. So, that is good. Jennie's kids don't get out worked. But, that is about all you can say about it. We are just going to have to out score folks and hope they don't shoot open shots as well as Vandy.

Vandy scored about 100 points and I never saw a single perimeter shot taken by them that I considered properly "guarded". We ran at shooters. That is about it. That is the opposite of properly guarding IMO. You want to be "under" perimeter players forcing them dribble and shoot guarded 2 point shots. And we just aren't playing dribble penetration correctly IMO.

In the old days when there was defensive contact on a dribbler going to the basket and/or a player "reached" across the body of a dribbler to slap the ball, a foul was called. Before there was a 3 point line, I get helping. stop dribble penetration But, in the modern era, just get physical early and reroute dribblers, overplay their dominate hand, use "reaching across and slapping the arm/hand dribbling the ball, and while reaching create an arm bar slowing the dribbler. (see Texas as an example). All of these things are still totally illegal according to the rule book but perfectly legal as the game is currently called. If Jennie and Porter were college offensive line coaches, they wouldn't instruct on how to hold a defensive player inside the shoulders as it is against the rules.

Jennie and Porter don't have their kids guarding screeners to "hedge" the player coming off the screen. The net result is we give up an open shot to the kid coming off the screen every single time. I think I know why they don't. What ever the reason, it drives me batty spending an entire game watching our opponents shoot nothing but open shots.

I also don’t hear any communicating besides Stewart. No screens called out, etc.

 

[Options]

Not a guess. And they’ll have to do it again to keep her.

I would let her walk. We don’t need to put all the money in one basket unless we want the same or worse results next year

 

[soonerstar]

I would let her walk. We don’t need to put all the money in one basket unless we want the same or worse results next year

Agree 100%.

 

[inoref]

Chavez most likely will leave via the portal to Tech or some other loaded school

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[61sooner]

Won't we be aroubd 500% if Chavez leaves next season?

 

[cowboysooner]

Put me in the camp with thise that want chavez back. She is going to play like a freshman sometimes. She is. Overall i have been impressed

 

[Tom4OU]

Put me in the camp with thise that want chavez back. She is going to play like a freshman sometimes. She is. Overall i have been impressed

I want her to stay too, but not for another million. We have to go to the portal able to compete. Need done experience and leadership. I think she’s doing freshman Things and will only get better.

 

[Tom4OU]

Chavez most likely will leave via the portal to Tech or some other loaded school

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I hope not, but I would not be shocked. She doesn’t have Oklahoma in any of her social media bios and her dad never wears anything OU.