OU down to a #10 seed

The problem is I don't think these project records moving forward. I.e. OU is 15-7 and would be a 10 seed in the tourney if the season ended today. But that doesn't factor in that OU will only be a favorite in one or two of its remaining games (WVU for sure, Texas maybe).
 
BoulderSooner said:
nope NCAA and not in the last 4
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Guys we have 8 games left plus the Big 12 Tourney, we need to win 5 of the 8 games plus 1 in order to get into the big dance, anything less we will be watching from home.

One of the things I noticed last night was - our kids (I want name anyone )stand flat footed and therefore we don't get the rebounds that we should. I have been around basketball all my life and have seen and heard coaches teaching kids to be on the balls of the feet to get the jumping power. We aren't doing that just standing there and therefore can't move to the ball.

I don't think Lon needs to go but I do believe he needs to look at his assistants and maybe make a change or two. We need teaching/coaches not just individuals drawing a pay check.

oketex:OUbball-logo:
 
oketex said:
Guys we have 8 games left plus the Big 12 Tourney, we need to win 5 of the 8 games plus 1 in order to get into the big dance, anything less we will be watching from home.

One of the things I noticed last night was - our kids (I want name anyone )stand flat footed and therefore we don't get the rebounds that we should. I have been around basketball all my life and have seen and heard coaches teaching kids to be on the balls of the feet to get the jumping power. We aren't doing that just standing there and therefore can't move to the ball.

I don't think Lon needs to go but I do believe he needs to look at his assistants and maybe make a change or two. We need teaching/coaches not just individuals drawing a pay check.

oketex:OUbball-logo:
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so you think OU needs 21 wins with a top 10 SOS (currently #5 SOS) to make the tourney??


4 more wins OU is a LOCK

3 more they are on the bubble
 
BoulderSooner said:
so you think OU needs 21 wins with a top 10 SOS (currently #5 SOS) to make the tourney??


4 more wins OU is a LOCK

3 more they are on the bubble
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Don't try to talk logic -- heck, there are some posters who still think we won't make last year's tournament! :) I remember all the folks who thought we needed two or three more wins last season, even though every projection had us safely in. Of course, when we made it, they tried to cover themselves by saying we only made it because the NCAA wanted Trae in. I wonder how they will rationalize it if we make it this year. Maybe the committee wants to see Lazenby's OU career end on a good note?

Hard to say exactly how many more wins we need because so much depends on what happens in other leagues and in the conference tourneys. The good thing is that other than West Virginia, every win we get the rest of the way will be a good win because of the strength of the league. But the team needs to get things righted quickly or winning four won't be possible.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Don't try to talk logic -- heck, there are some posters who still think we won't make last year's tournament! :) I remember all the folks who thought we needed two or three more wins last season, even though every projection had us safely in. Of course, when we made it, they tried to cover themselves by saying we only made it because the NCAA wanted Trae in. I wonder how they will rationalize it if we make it this year. Maybe the committee wants to see Lazenby's OU career end on a good note?

Hard to say exactly how many more wins we need because so much depends on what happens in other leagues and in the conference tourneys. The good thing is that other than West Virginia, every win we get the rest of the way will be a good win because of the strength of the league. But the team needs to get things righted quickly or winning four won't be possible.
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so much this
 
BoulderSooner said:
so you think OU needs 21 wins with a top 10 SOS (currently #5 SOS) to make the tourney??


4 more wins OU is a LOCK

3 more they are on the bubble
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Not sure about 4 wins, but I do believe 5 wins would make us a lock. The problem is where in the hell are we going to find five wins with the way this team is playing?.....texas, WV, tech all at home and maybe TCU on the road. And then maybe win one in KC. That is the best scenario I could come up with....but I just don't see it playing out that way as of now.
 
Has a team with a sub 40% conference winning percentage ever made the tournament?

To boot, we've played a tough schedule, but we haven't beaten a single team that is likely to make the tournament. Last year's team had three wins against top 4 seeds.

I mean seriously. 3 more wins this team finishes 6-12 in conference and has a record of 18-14, and that's a "bubble team"? Lol.
 
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sperry said:
Has a team with a sub 40% conference winning percentage ever made the tournament?

To boot, we've played a tough schedule, but we haven't beaten a single team that is likely to make the tournament. Last year's team had three wins against top 4 seeds.

I mean seriously. 3 more wins this team finishes 6-12 in conference and has a record of 18-14, and that's a "bubble team"? Lol.
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it would absolutly be a bubble team
 
BoulderSooner said:
it would absolutly be a bubble team
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Agreed, if OU scheduled a weak OOC schedule they would definitely be out. Benefits of playing a brutal schedule & not cupcakes just to easily get 20 wins.
 
I suppose 7/11 gets us in...we'll see.

The problem is we need 4 more wins...
Home:
tt
ut
wv
ku

Road:
bu
tcu
isu
ksu

Where they coming from? They ONLY game I see is home - wv...maybe.

2 comments I've seen...
some of you want them to lose - NO, just write what we see
can't talk logic - lol...what "logic" tells ya this team definitely can win 4 more games? Not saying it's a definite no, but the TREND is not good.

Last night righted the ship better and considering 5 of the 8 are 6/4 or better in the league it's going to be a very uphill battle.
 
We will beat tech, ut, and wvu at home. That 4th win is going to be tricky. Really hope it is against KU.
 
I'll add...

so yesterday BEFORE the game we were a #6 seed (usa today)

today after our 1 pt (really 4 pt) loss to a ranked isu squad we drop to a #10 seed.

Something tells me a couple more losses and we won't be a seed....unless it's a push at 4-4...

we'll see...going to the B12 and cheer them on, like I have the last few years.
 
Soonerinkc said:
I suppose 7/11 gets us in...we'll see.

The problem is we need 4 more wins...
Home:
tt
ut
wv
ku

Road:
bu
tcu
isu
ksu

Where they coming from? They ONLY game I see is home - wv...maybe.

2 comments I've seen...
some of you want them to lose - NO, just write what we see
can't talk logic - lol...what "logic" tells ya this team definitely can win 4 more games? Not saying it's a definite no, but the TREND is not good.

Last night righted the ship better and considering 5 of the 8 are 6/4 or better in the league it's going to be a very uphill battle.
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I don't think I have read anyone predict that we will definitely win x number of games. People are just debating how many wins it will take to get in, and that's where the logic part plays in -- being able to objectively look at OU's resume and estimate how many wins we need, setting aside personal opinions about whether a team "should" make it based on how they currently look.

But I also think it that just like it was foolish for people to predict a few weeks back that we could run the table at home, or win 5 in a row, or should hammer Baylor because they are "awful," it is equally foolish to currently assume that we are likely to lose 7 of our last 8. It's sports, games don't always go according to plan. Were many of you expecting Indiana to win at Michigan State on Saturday to break a losing streak far longer than ours?
 
TINY said:
We will beat tech, ut, and wvu at home. That 4th win is going to be tricky. Really hope it is against KU.
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we'll see what happens tonight, ku is getting into a groove...should be a good one.

pulling for ksu.
 
WichitaSooner said:
I don't think I have read anyone predict that we will definitely win x number of games. People are just debating how many wins it will take to get in, and that's where the logic part plays in -- being able to objectively look at OU's resume and estimate how many wins we need, setting aside personal opinions about whether a team "should" make it based on how they currently look.

But I also think it that just like it was foolish for people to predict a few weeks back that we could run the table at home, or win 5 in a row, or should hammer Baylor because they are "awful," it is equally foolish to currently assume that we are likely to lose 7 of our last 8. It's sports, games don't always go according to plan. Were many of you expecting Indiana to win at Michigan State on Saturday to break a losing streak far longer than ours?
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I understand your point. My ref is the logic that the team can win 4 or 5 games. Yes, things happen..no one thought wv would beat ku..they did.

Besides wv and ut...I don't see games that OU will be favored in. Like last night, I was surprised. Didn't expect a bu thrashing but isu is pretty good, they've got 5 guys+ that can score.

I liked how we attacked the rim...then got away from it in the early 2nd half...and again our def rebounding (giving up way too many off boards) killed us.

Last night the team actually looked like they were playing together for the most part. Hopefully it can continue.
 
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