Recruiting gone bad

[snydrosooner]

I know this is a basketball board, but I wanted some opinions. ESPN has an article that states an FSU coach actually told a player committed to Florida who wanted to decommit and go to FSU not to decommit but just sign with FSU on signing day. Coach said it was planned for 2 weeks.

This bothers me. I agree we have to hold schools responsible for there offers, not pulling at last minute. But for a player not to tell a school for over 2 weeks that you are not going there. Obviously they had to have some conversation with coach's. There was a quote in the article that yhe FSU coach told the student to say whatever they want to hear to the Florida coaches.

I know this probably goes on more then we know, but for a coach to specifically tell a high school student yo lie, bothers me.

 

[MsProudSooner]

I know this is a basketball board, but I wanted some opinions. ESPN has an article that states an FSU coach actually told a player committed to Florida who wanted to decommit and go to FSU not to decommit but just sign with FSU on signing day. Coach said it was planned for 2 weeks.

This bothers me. I agree we have to hold schools responsible for there offers, not pulling at last minute. But for a player not to tell a school for over 2 weeks that you are not going there. Obviously they had to have some conversation with coach's. There was a quote in the article that yhe FSU coach told the student to say whatever they want to hear to the Florida coaches.

I know this probably goes on more then we know, but for a coach to specifically tell a high school student yo lie, bothers me.

I have no personal knowledge, but the impression I get is that things like you describe are becoming all too common. Waiting until the last minute to tell a recruit that you had offered and had committed to you that he's not getting a scholarship is dishonorable, to say the least.

 

[Boomer]

Recruiting is a dirty business. Unfortunately, I don't think that will ever change.

 

[WTSooner]

Recruiting is a dirty business. Unfortunately, I don't think that will ever change.

Yep, it needs to be cleaned up a bit, but I don't have the answers.

That said, it's probably no dirtier today than it was in the 70's or 80's. We just have technology that brings the truth to light much quicker than it was back then.

 

[Zimwillett]

Yep, it needs to be cleaned up a bit, but I don't have the answers.

That said, it's probably no dirtier today than it was in the 70's or 80's. We just have technology that brings the truth to light much quicker than it was back then.

A small fix in football might be an early signing period. I know basketball recruiting has it's own set of problems, but the early signing period seems to work pretty well. It allows a coach an opportunity to solidify his class and lets the players who want to focus on other things be done with it. It seems to work well in basketball. I have no idea why they won't do the same thing in football.

 

[CoachTalk]

Signing early would help.

But as stated above, its not changing how dirty crootin is!

 

[bgrch1350]

A small fix in football might be an early signing period. I know basketball recruiting has it's own set of problems, but the early signing period seems to work pretty well. It allows a coach an opportunity to solidify his class and lets the players who want to focus on other things be done with it. It seems to work well in basketball. I have no idea why they won't do the same thing in football.

Kids not signing til Feb. Thats a long time.

 

[Soonerinkc]

Just a thought...

is this more for the college's...what if a kid gets hurt his Sr year, in Oct...?

IF he signed would the school be liable to pay for his education even if he couldn't play. I know some schools do honor the ship and I know it doesn't happen that often, but maybe that is part of the factor as well.

Along with it would ruined espn's hype...lol

 

[MsProudSooner]

Just a thought...

is this more for the college's...what if a kid gets hurt his Sr year, in Oct...?

IF he signed would the school be liable to pay for his education even if he couldn't play. I know some schools do honor the ship and I know it doesn't happen that often, but maybe that is part of the factor as well.

Along with it would ruined espn's hype...lol

Depends on the extent of the injury, I suppose.

 

[trevahoma]

Strong told a lot of the Texas commits to wait until NSD to flip/announce their commitments because he didn't want other schools to be able to negative-recruit against them and their 5-7 record.

 

[oudna]

Strong told a lot of the Texas commits to wait until NSD to flip/announce their commitments because he didn't want other schools to be able to negative-recruit against them and their 5-7 record.

No doubt.

 

[chuckb]

That's a despicable move if true. It's one thing for a coach to be that type of person, but for him to encourage a 17 or 18 year old to be that dishonest is reprehensible.

 

[HandyMan]

It's not teaching them anything good that is for sure.

 

[StatGeek]

Distasteful but smart.

 

[usedtobe1]

Remember the saying, "All's fair in love and war"? They need to add recruiting to that phrase.

 

[sooner28]

Strong told a lot of the Texas commits to wait until NSD to flip/announce their commitments because he didn't want other schools to be able to negative-recruit against them and their 5-7 record.

It's one thing to do it to stop other teams from negative recruiting against you, but I suspect the bigger reason is that it also screws over their rivals. By waiting until signing day to flip, it doesn't allow the team who loses the highly rated guy any time to try and find another good player to replace them. At that point, the vast majority of highly rated kids are already committed elsewhere, and the only players left to fill those spots are scrap guys that they wouldn't otherwise have signed.

 

[opsooner]

Sounds like the coach and player deserve each other if true. Who wants to play for a coach who would do that and who wants a recruit who would do that?

 

[TINY]

Strong told a lot of the Texas commits to wait until NSD to flip/announce their commitments because he didn't want other schools to be able to negative-recruit against them and their 5-7 record.

Strong also pulled the race card on OU's targets. Dude is desperate! lulz