Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

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Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Physical harassment of Cunningham was illegal. Physical harassment of Reaves was good D. That wasn't a factor in the game. That was the game.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Physical harassment of Cunningham was illegal. Physical harassment of Reaves was good D. That wasn't a factor in the game. That was the game.

ESPN has been on a crusade to make sure OSU got into the NCAA tournament.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Stop with these lame excuses. It’s just sad.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Cunningham doesn't drive into traffic or force it as much as Reaves does. I do believe Reaves should have gone to the line more because he was fouled more than it was called. However, when you force it....the refs, at times, tend to swallow their whistles. I also think at times Reaves tends to "hope" for a call when he really has no chance to finish. I didn't see Cunningham doing a lot of this....and the perception is that Cunningham is "under control" much more than Reaves.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

I think some of it is the not requiring defenders to go straight up in the circle, but thats the rule.

Along with 2 times Reaves drew obvious charges on defense but were no calls.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Cade got away with quite a few forearm push offs that should have been offensive fouls but we got the star treatment. If we rebound better and/or hit our FTs we still win.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

I believe Reaves was absolutely officiated differently than Cunningham at times, to our detriment. But it's not the reason we lost at all.

45-28 on the boards is the reason we lost. Got punked at home.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Cunningham doesn't drive into traffic or force it as much as Reaves does. I do believe Reaves should have gone to the line more because he was fouled more than it was called. However, when you force it....the refs, at times, tend to swallow their whistles. I also think at times Reaves tends to "hope" for a call when he really has no chance to finish. I didn't see Cunningham doing a lot of this....and the perception is that Cunningham is "under control" much more than Reaves.

This
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

It's not like AR hasn't benefited from calls most of his time here. Sometimes you get them sometimes you don't.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Rebound the ball and nothing else matters.
 
Cunningham doesn't drive into traffic or force it as much as Reaves does. I do believe Reaves should have gone to the line more because he was fouled more than it was called. However, when you force it....the refs, at times, tend to swallow their whistles. I also think at times Reaves tends to "hope" for a call when he really has no chance to finish. I didn't see Cunningham doing a lot of this....and the perception is that Cunningham is "under control" much more than Reaves.


Exactly. Cunningham is truly looking to score and at least has an angle, plus he is bigger. I loved some of Reaves’ drives today but he has to know when he doesn’t have the angle and get it back out if he doesn’t have the dish like he did to Manek to send to OT. Playing for the foul is the same as praying for the foul. It is not winning basketball.


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Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Op 100% correct
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

They were not officiated differently; they PLAY differently and with different levels of skill. In CC, you’re looking at top 5 NBA pick and quite possibly #1 in a deep draft. He is a special level of talent. He also has nice size for the role he plays. When he drives to the basket or posts up, he is VERY much under control. His moves are deliberate and he’s patient. He is polished for his age. And bottom line, again, he is just a supreme talent and supreme talents draw more fouls because they are harder to guard and defenders get tired/frustrated/desperate. And sure if a star player gets hacked a few times, he will then also start drawing calls where it looks like he got hacked, but really wasn’t. But because they put such constant pressure on a D, those calls are bound to come their way simply due to law of averages.

As was pointed out above, Reaves goes FULL BORE to the hole when he drives. This is how he HAS to do it because while he is a gifted player, he’s NOT a special level talent. He has to put in a ton of effort when he drives and he is actively seeking contract, often initiating it himself. It’s a crafty way to play and I like it. But there are risks there; the biggest one being when it doesn’t end well, it’s often in ugly fashion. Guys like that are hard to officiate because there is probably contact one way or the other almost every drive. Hard to decipher every time who initiates and whether it’s enough to warrant a whistle. It’s more of a dice roll than what CC does.

OU did not lose today because of refs. Of course there were missed calls. But nothing significant enough to swing the game. They lost because we couldn’t cash in on good defense due to our rebounding woes and because the other team had a superior talent. More the latter.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Rebounding was the main issue. Reaves should’ve went to the line 6 more times.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

It’s rather curious why the officials consistently allow Reaves to get hacked while calling ticky tack fouls on the other end ...

The story of the game was:
Sooners shot better FG % and better 3 point % and win TO battle 20-15
However the pokes shot 20-23 from the FT line and the Sooners shot 14-20
The difference in the game was the 45-28 whipping the Pokes gave the Sooners got on the glass including 13 offensive rebounds!

Rematch Monday lets hope the Sooners can hit the boards better!
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Reaves is a ball hog, plays out of control
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Reaves is a ball hog, plays out of control

I think that’s a little unfair. He’s the only guy on the team that can consistently get to the rim. He’s also the only guy who can consistently create for others. Yes, he struggles at times with shot selection, but that often comes with the territory for an aggressive player on a team where said player is really the only one that can create off the dribble.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Reaves is a ball hog, plays out of control

Terrible take. Best passer, creator, penetrator on the team. Also a good rebounder & solid defender.
 
Re: Refs called "defense" of Reaves & Cunningham completely different.

Reaves is a ball hog, plays out of control

As crazy as he drives me.... OU wouldn’t be where they are without him. Ya, hr makes a few boneheaded plays but his overall game is very good.
 
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