Shot clock being redused to 30 seconds?

[NickZepp]

According to espn, looks like this will happen.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...clock-according-ncaa-rules-committee-chairman

 

[Eielson]

Maybe we can add a 4-point line, too.

 

[MNsooner]

I'm okay with this.

 

[JBaker]

Thank God. Now just move the 3-point line to NBA distance and give us some spacing.

 

[chuckb]

Thank God. Now just move the 3-point line to NBA distance and give us some spacing.

I agree, or at least back a little. I'd also like to see them widen the lane.

 

[JBaker]

I agree, or at least back a little. I'd also like to see them widen the lane.

Also a good point.
Another thing I go back and forth a bit on is defensive three seconds.
I like being able to play zone defense. It's a nice change of pace at times, and it's something that is sort of unique to the college game. But I hate how damn crowded the lane gets.

 

[usedtobe1]

The women already have a 30 second clock. It's about time the men do, too. We've come a long way from Dean Smith's 4 corner offense when they would begin their stall if their lead was larger than the number of minutes left. It was like watching paint dry.

Another rule I would like to change is the 10 second rule to get over the half court line. It's crazy a TO can cause the 10 seconds to start over. The NBA has an 8 second rule and a TO doesn't restart the count.

 

[AdaSooner]

The women already have a 30 second clock. It's about time the men do, too. We've come a long way from Dean Smith's 4 corner offense when they would begin their stall if their lead was larger than the number of minutes left. It was like watching paint dry.

Another rule I would like to change is the 10 second rule to get over the half court line. It's crazy a TO can cause the 10 seconds to start over. The NBA has an 8 second rule and a TO doesn't restart the count.

The 30 second clock is long overdue. The women adopted the rule more than forty years ago. How embarrassing that it took the men this long to make the change.

I also agree with your suggestion to continue the count when a team calls a timeout to avoid a 10 second violation. That does nothing but penalize good defense while rewarding the offensive team with more time to get the ball over the midcourt line. Nothing about that rule makes sense to me.

 

[brettromar]

Thank God. Now just move the 3-point line to NBA distance and give us some spacing.

As a coach I don't think that would provide spacing in college. Just because the line is farther out doesn't mean I need to come out anymore on defense. They will have to shoot from farther, shoot a lower percentage and allow me to help even more off non shooters. Just my opinion though.

 

[Max Power]

I personally think the three point line is fine but the shot clock change is well overdue. Another change I would like is if a team calls time out before they cross half court, the 10 second clock doesn't start over.

 

[AdaSooner]

I personally think the three point line is fine but the shot clock change is well overdue. Another change I would like is if a team calls time out before they cross half court, the 10 second clock doesn't start over.

So, does that mean you're on board with usedtobe1 and me?

 

[Max Power]

So, does that mean you're on board with usedtobe1 and me?

Yes it does

it also means i should have done a better job of reading the thread before posting

 

[Zimwillett]

As a coach I don't think that would provide spacing in college. Just because the line is farther out doesn't mean I need to come out anymore on defense. They will have to shoot from farther, shoot a lower percentage and allow me to help even more off non shooters. Just my opinion though.

Agreed. I do think they need to widen the lane and extend the "charge arc" similar to the FIBA/NBA dimensions. That would help more with spacing.

But more than anything, they need to go back to the "freedom of movement" principles they adopted and inexplicably abandoned 2 seasons ago. The transition will result in some games that are pretty hard to watch for a while, but if they stick with it, players and coaches will naturally adjust and the game will be FAR better for it.

 

[DenverSooner]

The 30 second clock is long overdue. The women adopted the rule more than forty years ago.

If you had given me a few drinks you probably could talked me into a bet on that because the men didn't have any shot clock until much later and then reduced it from 45 seconds to 35 seconds in the 90s. I had no clue the women had a shorter shot clock for that long.

 

[AdaSooner]

If you had given me a few drinks you probably could talked me into a bet on that because the men didn't have any shot clock until much later and then reduced it from 45 seconds to 35 seconds in the 90s. I had no clue the women had a shorter shot clock for that long.

Dang! I missed a great opportunity to win a few beers. lol

For the record, I cheated and got the answer online. I was surprised to learn the women adopted a shot clock that many years ago. The men didn't even have a shot clock until 15 years later.

 

[skyvue]

I don't really see the benefit of lopping 5 seconds off the shot clock. It's pretty rare that a team waits till those last five seconds to shoot, and when they do, that means we've seen some good defense that's forced them to wait.

No shot clock at all would be a big problem, but the difference between 30 and 35 seconds will be negligible, in my opinion.

 

[NickZepp]

I don't really see the benefit of lopping 5 seconds off the shot clock. It's pretty rare that a team waits till those last five seconds to shoot, and when they do, that means we've seen some good defense that's forced them to wait.

No shot clock at all would be a big problem, but the difference between 30 and 35 seconds will be negligible, in my opinion.

I'm for a faster pace. 30 seconds is better. I would like to see it be 25 second shot clock. But really it's down to how well officiated games are. That's the big problem in the college game.

 

[Zimwillett]

I don't really see the benefit of lopping 5 seconds off the shot clock. It's pretty rare that a team waits till those last five seconds to shoot, and when they do, that means we've seen some good defense that's forced them to wait.

No shot clock at all would be a big problem, but the difference between 30 and 35 seconds will be negligible, in my opinion.

From a raw numbers standpoint, you're probably right. Limited data (CBI and NIT this season) shows that it only adds an average of about 4 points and 3.5 more possessions per game.

I think the more important development is that the NCAA Rules Committee is finally showing some willingness to address some of the problems with the game. My hope is that this will be successful and cause them to be willing to consider other, more significant, steps.

 

[Eielson]

I, for one, haven't felt the games are too slow. I don't mind teams taking time to run their offense. I actually find the opposite to be more annoying to me. I agree that it can be a bit painful to watch teams bricking wide open shots, but this won't increase anybody's shooting percentage. If anything, it will decrease it.

 

[AdaSooner]

From a raw numbers standpoint, you're probably right. Limited data (CBI and NIT this season) shows that it only adds an average of about 4 points and 3.5 more possessions per game.

I think the more important development is that the NCAA Rules Committee is finally showing some willingness to address some of the problems with the game. My hope is that this will be successful and cause them to be willing to consider other, more significant, steps.

Good point. The NCAA rules committee has been reluctant to introduce changes over the years. That's why it took the men's committee fifteen years to add a shot clock, and even then they went with a 45 second clock instead of the 30 second clock the women introduced in the early 70s.

I have a feeling the men's committee were being pressured by longtime and well respected coaches like Dean Smith, who believed a grind it out offense like the four corners was the way to go. To me, the game is a lot more exciting now than it was back then. Change can be good sometimes, even to a great game like college basketball.