Should KU Be Punished?

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Yes. Death penalty is the only right answer.

Typically, you wait 5 days from exposure before testing. Otherwise it could be a false negative. However, symptom onset would mean he was exposed several days prior. It was irresponsible to play him with active symptoms tho, regardless of testing negative or not. They didn’t even test him until after the game it sounds like. Seems irresponsible to me, but don’t expect any punishment.

Edit: He had tested negative twice and was having headaches and upset stomach. Symptoms are questionable but it’s a gray area. Still, death penalty seems appropriate
 
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Yes. That is the answer to this question 100% of the time regardless of what the issue was. In this case, if he tests positive soon and other players get infected they will have punished themselves.
 
Gonzaga-Baylor match postponed. Would have been an interesting game intermingled in a football day.
 
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Nah. Allergies can present with COVID symptoms. If his tests were negative, and they had reason to think it might have been something else, I have zero problems with him playing.

COVID symptoms are pretty much the symptoms of many common, run of the mill, illnesses.
 
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Nah. Allergies can present with COVID symptoms. If his tests were negative, and they had reason to think it might have been something else, I have zero problems with him playing.

COVID symptoms are pretty much the symptoms of many common, run of the mill, illnesses.
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But even if it is a cold
Or the flu, you can pass it on to someone else and then they may have to sit out due to covid symptoms.

I’m this year it just seems crazy that someone with those symptoms was allowed to play
 
No. He played today. Sick doesn’t mean covid.
 
Crazy how the times have changed. "Back in my day" it was a badge of honor to play through the flu and hit someody so hard they didn't get up.

And I'm not even 30.
 
CoachTalk said:
No. He played today. Sick doesn’t mean covid.
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Eielson said:
Crazy how the times have changed. "Back in my day" it was a badge of honor to play through the flu and hit someody so hard they didn't get up.

And I'm not even 30.
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2020 isn't every other year.

Tests are not close to being 100% accurate. And even if they knew without a doubt it wasn't covid, it is terrible optics. And if he had the flu or other illness, he could pass that onto other players or the other team and create more chaos.

I'm not surprised Self played him. I think if this happened at most other schools, especially OU, they would have sat him as a precaution
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
2020 isn't every other year.

Tests are not close to being 100% accurate. And even if they knew without a doubt it wasn't covid, it is terrible optics. And if he had the flu or other illness, he could pass that onto other players or the other team and create more chaos.

I'm not surprised Self played him. I think if this happened at most other schools, especially OU, they would have sat him as a precaution
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This is super soft. Next youll say guys cant play when they are sore or have a bruise.

I get you dont like self, not a fan myself, but at least try to be a tad objective.
 
guys, this is KU we are talking about. They should get the death penalty next time Bill Self drives 3 over the speed limit
 
CoachTalk said:
This is super soft. Next youll say guys cant play when they are sore or have a bruise.

I get you dont like self, not a fan myself, but at least try to be a tad objective.
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I am being objective. I've seen in my own workplace what happens.

If someone else gets the flu (or whatever illness he had), they will be presenting covid like symptoms and must isolate for a certain number of days until their test comes back.

Say the referee catches what he had. The referree would be out.

It has nothing to do about being soft
 
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I am being objective. I've seen in my own workplace what happens.

If someone else gets the flu (or whatever illness he had), they will be presenting covid like symptoms and must isolate for a certain number of days until their test comes back.

Say the referee catches what he had. The referree would be out.

It has nothing to do about being soft
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But hes tested negative like 9 times already. He was just sick not COVID.
 
CoachTalk said:
But hes tested negative like 9 times already. He was just sick not COVID.
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at the time, he had only tested negative twice.

I am 99% sure that OU would not have played a player that was complaining that he couldn't breath and had covid symptoms even if he had tested negative twice.

I think the latest data I saw was that a negative test was inaccurate 20-30% of the time.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
at the time, he had only tested negative twice.

I am 99% sure that OU would not have played a player that was complaining that he couldn't breath and had covid symptoms even if he had tested negative twice.

I think the latest data I saw was that a negative test was inaccurate 20-30% of the time.
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It depends on what test they used. Most tests are much more accurate than that. The only one that that I'm aware of that has that level of false negatives is the Abbott ID Now and that's only if it's used for screening and not on symptomatic patients.
 
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It depends on what test they used. Most tests are much more accurate than that. The only one that that I'm aware of that has that level of false negatives is the Abbott ID Now and that's only if it's used for screening and not on symptomatic patients.
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I am honestly very surprised at how little info there is available on the accuracy of these tests. This virus has been around for a year now and there is plenty of data available and time for research and yet we can't pin down ball park accuracy levels?
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
at the time, he had only tested negative twice.

I am 99% sure that OU would not have played a player that was complaining that he couldn't breath and had covid symptoms even if he had tested negative twice.

I think the latest data I saw was that a negative test was inaccurate 20-30% of the time.
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What does the data say about the percentage of time positive tests are inaccurate?
 
scrybe said:
What does the data say about the percentage of time positive tests are inaccurate?
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There are very few false positive tests. In fact, the manufacturers of the popular platforms that are PCR based put the predictive value of a positive test at 100% (barring something stupid like a mislabeled specimen).

I wonder what happened in Nick Saban's case. Remember when he had the "false positive" and then a few weeks later he really was positive? Really weird.
 
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