Some key recruits impacted by OT/Gallon saga

[BigTime]

Heard from a good source awhile back that Marquis Carter (Gonzaga), Aziz N'Diaye (Washington), Phil Jurik (Oklahoma State) were all lost due to the NCAA uncertainty. All three were going to be Sooners.

Now add Rotnei Clarke.

I sure hope the NCAA can hurry up and wrap this up (at least before the football season) so that we can put all this behind us.

This program has been punished quite a bit already imo as we've had to wait for this "investigation" to finish. This sucks.

*sigh*

 

[Sawyer]

The most severe punishment the NCAA can give is the wait before the ruling.

 

[BigTime]

The most severe punishment the NCAA can give is the wait before the ruling.

I agree now that OU has gone through this over what should of been a pretty cut and dry, easy decision. It's a shame.

 

[sdcloud9]

Sawyer, you are so right.

The school suffers more punishment while they wait for the NCAA findings.

 

[LoveDemSooners]

This is some bs if you ask me. It can't take this long

 

[Sawyer]

IMO they do it when they feel more has gone on than they can prove. It's their way of sticking it to you when they can't stick it to you.

 

[Cleavon Little]

As much as I tend to agree with the Boz when it comes to the NCAA, Tiny and OT didn't do anything on their part to speed up this investigation either.

 

[WTSooner]

OU has ZERO reason to complain about the time this is taking. It's a serious matter. We committed a relatively serious offense, and we were already on probation. Death penalty might not have been on the table, but they could have slapped us with something serious if it were warranted. Luckily they don't believe it is. Didn't help that OT wasn't in any hurry to talk to them either.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

OU has ZERO reason to complain about the time this is taking. It's a serious matter. We committed a relatively serious offense, and we were already on probation. Death penalty might not have been on the table, but they could have slapped us with something serious if it were warranted. Luckily they don't believe it is. Didn't help that OT wasn't in any hurry to talk to them either.

you honestly believe something like this should take this long to figure out?

 

[WTSooner]

you honestly believe something like this should take this long to figure out?

When one of the main people in the investigation doesn't talk for a year? Yeah, I do.

 

[BigTime]

When one of the main people in the investigation doesn't talk for a year? Yeah, I do.

Why should the school suffer then when they fired that individual immediately and were fully cooperating with the NCAA and had already shown that the compliance department and the head coach were not at fault? Seemed pretty cut and dry to me with the email and text trail left by OT. Not to mention the fact that this happened well after Gallon committed and signed for OU (showing that this wasn't the reason that he became a Sooner).

This was unacceptable and the main fault rests on Orande. Its a shame.

 

[bocabull]

The school is totally at fault. There are only a dozen or so guys on scholarship and a few coaches. Easy to keep total tabs on them.

Just like the Bomar situation, no way that should be able to happen.

OU just has cheating in the culture and does not give it the proper relevance.

 

[OUhoops11]

OU has ZERO reason to complain about the time this is taking. It's a serious matter. We committed a relatively serious offense, and we were already on probation.

No, "we" did not commit a relatively serious offense. Oronde Taliaferro and Tiny Gallon committed a relatively serious offense. They were going to violate NCAA rules regardless.

 

[OUhoops11]

The school is totally at fault. There are only a dozen or so guys on scholarship and a few coaches. Easy to keep total tabs on them.

Just like the Bomar situation, no way that should be able to happen.

OU just has cheating in the culture and does not give it the proper relevance.

Why is this guy still allowed to post? In the Bomar situation, OU got hit with a failure to monitor. Yes, that situation should not have been allowed to occur.


The NCAA has already stated OU will not get hit with a failure to monitor in regards to Tiny Gallon. The violation was going to happen regardless of what OU did.

 

[WTSooner]

No, "we" did not commit a relatively serious offense. Oronde Taliaferro and Tiny Gallon committed a relatively serious offense. They were going to violate NCAA rules regardless.

He was on our payroll when he committed those offenses. So yes, WE did it.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

The school is totally at fault. There are only a dozen or so guys on scholarship and a few coaches. Easy to keep total tabs on them.

Just like the Bomar situation, no way that should be able to happen.

OU just has cheating in the culture and does not give it the proper relevance.

so the compliance department should have access to players emails, have taps in their phones, demand to see texts, and have access to their bank statements?

Come on. Bomar deal should have been caught. But some things are just going to happen

 

[MercedeSooner]

Why should the school suffer then when they fired that individual immediately and were fully cooperating with the NCAA and had already shown that the compliance department and the head coach were not at fault? Seemed pretty cut and dry to me with the email and text trail left by OT. Not to mention the fact that this happened well after Gallon committed and signed for OU (showing that this wasn't the reason that he became a Sooner).

This was unacceptable and the main fault rests on Orande. Its a shame.

The reality is that the NCAA usually flexes their muscles at the schools that self report and comply with the infractions committee because they can. Stonewalling actually does help in most every case except USC.

 

[bocabull]

so the compliance department should have access to players emails, have taps in their phones, demand to see texts, and have access to their bank statements?

Come on. Bomar deal should have been caught. But some things are just going to happen

Absolutely the compliance department could require verification on the source of funds for private tuition, automobiles, rent/mortgage etc.

If we really cared this stuff would be easy to prevent.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Absolutely the compliance department could require verification on the source of funds for private tuition, automobiles, rent/mortgage etc.

If we really cared this stuff would be easy to prevent.

that's not what I said

 

[bocabull]

that's not what I said

Don't you agree requiring simple verification on the source of funds for certain expenditures for recruits would prevent issues like this? Just like a mortgage company requires you to verify the source of your down payment. They don't care that you paid it, they care that you didn't borrow it.

It just gets old constantly losing scholarships, constantly being in front of the NCAA. I'm sick of the excuses. Somebody needs to change the culture.