Three Point Shooting

[pnkranger]

I think our slow starts have quite a bit to do with the fact that we have a number of guys who are good shooters that are not shooting well right now.

Brady Manek
Sophomore 36%
Junior 33%

Austin Reaves
Sophomore 43%
Junior 32%

Jamal Bienemy
Freshman 40%
Sophomore 17%

Alondes Williams and Devion Harmon are also shooting below an expected average based on form and the types of shots they're taking. When you miss shots early that you are used to taking, it has a huge effect on your whole game plan.

I think we will return to mean at some point in terms of shooting (especially Reaves and Bienemy) ... but I would like to see us work the ball inside early in games to open up those shots and get some confidence for our guys.

 

[daqman]

Over all 3pt shooting hasn't been bad. First half 3pt shooting has been absolutely horrible. 0% against W&M.
22 against MES. 23% UNT.
In our one loss it was bad the entire game.

 

[coolm]

playing so many neutral site or road games tends to keep the numbers down. I can understand your concern, but IMO it's all about the defense. We have to learn to bear down defensively when those shots don't drop so the runouts increase.

 

[CoachTalk]

Jamal was one of my favorite players last year. He has to get going for us.

 

[daqman]

playing so many neutral site or road games tends to keep the numbers down. I can understand your concern, but IMO it's all about the defense. We have to learn to bear down defensively when those shots don't drop so the runouts increase.

Sorry excuse.
UTSA 5-25
W&M 3-18
MES 4-16
UNT 3-13 (first half)
All at home.

 

[SoonerinNC]

I think a lot of it is shot selection. I can almost tell every time Manek is going to make or miss by his rhythm and body position. Also if you watch Bieniemy, when he shoots with the flow of the game he usually hits them. When he has to think before he shoots he usually misses them.

Kruger's tendency is to give his players a lot of shooting freedom. That has mixed results. On one hand they feel comfortable about shooting and comfort is important. You have a hard time being relaxed if someone like Kelvin may break your arm for shooting. (Actually I am a Kelvin supporter.)

One the other hand the players often try to do too much and are too anxious to get a shot off.

 

[oudna]

It will improve.

 

[Swans]

UNT hits 19 of 35 threes yesterday in rout of UALR.

 

[MisterF]

New three point distance may be a factor.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Sorry excuse.
UTSA 5-25
W&M 3-18
MES 4-16
UNT 3-13 (first half)
All at home.

ummm UNT was on the ROAD

 

[oudna]

New three point distance may be a factor.

Excellent point

Are numbers nationwide down?

 

[daqman]

ummm UNT was on the ROAD

That is correct. Still a terrible excuse.

 

[coolm]

That is correct. Still a terrible excuse.

no, it's not a terrible excuse. it is a perfectly justifiable reason. in fact, I can show it to you mathematically or in physics. And there are many other such reasons that I can also show you that are likewise very possible.

 

[WichitaSooner]

All together now: "small sample size." We are only eight games in, which is early enough that one or two horrible games (or great games, for that matter) can significantly skew stats. I have never thought this will be a great three-point shooting team, but I also don't think we are going to end up at 31% for the season.

 

[daqman]

no, it's not a terrible excuse. it is a perfectly justifiable reason. in fact, I can show it to you mathematically or in physics. And there are many other such reasons that I can also show you that are likewise very possible.

That would certainly provide the board with entertainment on a slow day.

 

[Soonerinkc]

guess...my personal belief is to work inside - out. Rather see us attack the rim by either really focusing on some post offense or driving at first.

It's just natural with shot %. Yeah shoot 30 3's ya prob make about 10...great 30 pts but just rather see anyone work inside - out.

There is a reason 3 pt % isn't above 35%...(high was 38% in 1987)

 

[Swans]

guess...my personal belief is to work inside - out. Rather see us attack the rim by either really focusing on some post offense or driving at first.

It's just natural with shot %. Yeah shoot 30 3's ya prob make about 10...great 30 pts but just rather see anyone work inside - out.

There is a reason 3 pt % isn't above 35%...(high was 38% in 1987)

It’s not as if we don’t have the guys that can do this either. Doo, Reaves, Williams and Harmon can all get into the lane.

 

[WichitaSooner]

It’s not as if we don’t have the guys that can do this either. Doo, Reaves, Williams and Harmon can all get into the lane.

And they have -- it's not like we are relying on threes. We have shot a lot fewer threes than our opponents. We haven't shot the three well, but I don't feel like we are taking bad shots.

 

[Stikboy]

guess...my personal belief is to work inside - out. Rather see us attack the rim by either really focusing on some post offense or driving at first.

It's just natural with shot %. Yeah shoot 30 3's ya prob make about 10...great 30 pts but just rather see anyone work inside - out.

There is a reason 3 pt % isn't above 35%...(high was 38% in 1987)

I agree with this. It seems like in the first halves of many games they fall into their rut where they just stand around and take jump shots. Then when they finally start to move it a bit which includes mainly getting an inside-out thing going we always seem to be more successful. No excuse to ever just stand around and take jump shots. Move the stinkin ball and get it inside! Opens everything up..

 

[daqman]

And they have -- it's not like we are relying on threes. We have shot a lot fewer threes than our opponents. We haven't shot the three well, but I don't feel like we are taking bad shots.

We do rely on 3's too much at the beginning of games. They don't fall, and we fall behind. Every game.

I'm with SIKC. Start out games driving or Doo shooting midrange. Then shoot 3's. But make sure they're good/open shots.