Win or lose, this "Hawk Homer" writer needs some verbal abuse

[NMSooner'80]

http://www2.ljworld.com/staff/chuck_woodling/


My guess is that Woodling the Worm won't even show, after this trashing of Wayman Tisdale right after his death. But he still deserves some serious rage, if he does dare show his face today.

 

[DenverSooner]

http://www2.ljworld.com/staff/chuck_woodling/


My guess is that Woodling the Worm won't even show, after this trashing of Wayman Tisdale right after his death. But he still deserves some serious rage, if he does dare show his face today.

What was there not to like about Wayman Tisdale? I don't think the guy was a saint or perfect by any strecth of the imagination (none of us are) but Wayman struck me as a really good person. Always smiling and always humble when he had plenty of reason not to be humble. (Not many of us have the talent to be a professional muscian or a professional athlete, Wayman was both.)

Did he think Wayman should not try hard against the Jawhawks? I am sure the players (KU players) wanted nothing less than his best effort. Most competitors are more offended by someone going easy on them than really beating them. This is especially true if you are remotely in the same category. I would expect Wayman to have gone easy on me but if I were a college basketball player, I would have wanted his best game to see how close (or far) I was from his level.

 

[Big Old Booger]

What was there not to like about Wayman Tisdale? I don't think the guy was a saint or perfect by any strecth of the imagination (none of us are) but Wayman struck me as a really good person. Always smiling and always humble when he had plenty of reason not to be humble. (Not many of us have the talent to be a professional muscian or a professional athlete, Wayman was both.)

Did he think Wayman should not try hard against the Jawhawks? I am sure the players (KU players) wanted nothing less than his best effort. Most competitors are more offended by someone going easy on them than really beating them. This is especially true if you are remotely in the same category. I would expect Wayman to have gone easy on me but if I were a college basketball player, I would have wanted his best game to see how close (or far) I was from his level.

More than likely, it went back to when Wayman, Billy, and the boys cut down the nets in Allen Fieldhouse in 1984. KU fans all screamed it was a classless move, but what they forget is that KU cut down the nets in LNC after they beat us the previous year in Ted Owens (OU alum) last game in Norman.

After we cut down the nets in AF, the KU fans were throwing stuff at our team while our team was holding up the index finger (saying we are #1). The KU fans and press said we flipped them off which was untrue. So, the next game, Billy had the whole team go out for warmups wearing crimson mittens. :ez-laugh:

 

[SoonerDan74012]

After we cut down the nets in AF, the KU fans were throwing stuff at our team while our team was holding up the index finger (saying we are #1). The KU fans and press said we flipped them off which was untrue. So, the next game, Billy had the whole team go out for warmups wearing crimson mittens. :ez-laugh:

I didn't know about this! :ez-roll: :ez-roll: :ez-roll:

 

[Tony]

Here is that chump's story for those that forget. Remember that it was written in the immediate wake of Wayman's death. For once, the comments attached to an online newspaper article bring a dose of sanity.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/may/16/tisdale-hand-net-cutting/

 

[stoops4pres]

Here is that chump's story for those that forget. Remember that it was written in the immediate wake of Wayman's death. For once, the comments attached to an online newspaper article bring a dose of sanity.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/may/16/tisdale-hand-net-cutting/

If there were nominees for "The Most Idiotic Article Introduction in Journalism History", this would have to be one of them.

Who was the editor, and how in the world did he or she let this article go through with that coarse introduction?

 

[Tony]

Who was the editor, and how in the world did he or she let this article go through with that coarse introduction?

You would be amazed at some of the stuff that editors let go just because they don't want to get writers who have been there forever upset. My favorite example is a Furman Bisher column from a few years ago when he complained about Major League Baseball opening their season in Japan because he was still mad about them bombing Pearl Harbor.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sh...lumns/entries/2008/03/25/sayonara_baseba.html

Money can change any habit. Eight springs ago the Mets and Cubs opened the season, not in Cincinnati. Guess where? Tokyo. That Tokyo, the guys who gave us Pearl Harbor. Some people don’t like you to bring that up, trade with Japan is so hot. But I’ve got a long memory. I saw what a few bombs can do to our property.

Oh, well, ‘scuse me. It’s just tough to get away from it when you turn on your TV in the morning there are the Boston Red Sox playing the Oakland A’s in the Tokyo Dome. Not only that, but the Red Sox pitcher is Daisuke Matsuzaka, who didn’t grow up in Wampole.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

I met and talked to Wayman about 3 months before he died; nothing but smiles and courtesy. Wayman Tisdale may not be a "saint", but he is the closest human being I have met in my 40 years that deserves it. Within 5 minutes, Wayman totally changed my attitude on life and how you approach it.

Admittedly, I'm sad to say that at 38 (then) it took that long, but with all due respect to both God and Jesus, it was meeting and talking to Wayman that changed me completely, both personally and professionally. I'll N-E-V-E-R forget that day, ever.

I owe the rest of what I hope to be the rest of my life to be to Wayman Tisdale, Jesus Christ and God...but not necesarily specifically in that order. May be going overboard, but a few minutes with Wayman touched me in a way that going to church every week never did.

Hope this isn't seen as offensive to anyone or otherwise, but that man was something else, not of this world, something else. I'll leave it at that.

 

[qwertyqaz]

I met and talked to Wayman about 3 months before he died; nothing but smiles and courtesy. Wayman Tisdale may not be a "saint", but he is the closest human being I have met in my 40 years that deserves it. Within 5 minutes, Wayman totally changed my attitude on life and how you approach it.

Admittedly, I'm sad to say that at 38 (then) it took that long, but with all due respect to both God and Jesus, it was meeting and talking to Wayman that changed me completely, both personally and professionally. I'll N-E-V-E-R forget that day, ever.

I owe the rest of what I hope to be the rest of my life to be to Wayman Tisdale, Jesus Christ and God...but not necesarily specifically in that order. May be going overboard, but a few minutes with Wayman touched me in a way that going to church every week never did.

Hope this isn't seen as offensive to anyone or otherwise, but that man was something else, not of this world, something else. I'll leave it at that.

Mr B--no need to apologize and I don't think your words are offensive. I think God puts us in situations and allows to have experiences/meet people who clarify things for us, reveal things to us, put things in perspective.

Mr. Tisdale was just that for MANY people. He is an absolute gem of a soul and he is reaping his reward right now.

 

[NMSooner'80]

Here is that chump's story for those that forget. Remember that it was written in the immediate wake of Wayman's death. For once, the comments attached to an online newspaper article bring a dose of sanity.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/may/16/tisdale-hand-net-cutting/

Good find, Tony! I forgot that my link was only the bio for Wormy Woodling.

I will also hazard a guess that his libel of Wayman was perfectly fine with the bosses in Topeka. That's about how they feel about OU up there.

 

[Big Old Booger]

Mr B--no need to apologize and I don't think your words are offensive. I think God puts us in situations and allows to have experiences/meet people who clarify things for us, reveal things to us, put things in perspective.

Mr. Tisdale was just that for MANY people. He is an absolute gem of a soul and he is reaping his reward right now.

Agree 100%.

MrB...thanks for posting that story. It made my day.

 

[BlackwellSooner]

More than likely, it went back to when Wayman, Billy, and the boys cut down the nets in Allen Fieldhouse in 1984. KU fans all screamed it was a classless move, but what they forget is that KU cut down the nets in LNC after they beat us the previous year in Ted Owens (OU alum) last game in Norman.

Is that a fact, that KU fans cut down the nets in LNC in 1983? I wonder if there is any way to document the truth of that, so that I can shove it under a few KU fans noses in the future. Anyone know how to dig up a link or a recap of the game that would validate that?

EDIT:

I checked SoonerStats.com in 1983, and Ted Owens' biography in Wikipedia, we split the season games, each winning at home, then KU beating us 77-87 in Norman at what is called "(Conf-Post)".
Also 1983 was the last year that Owens coached at KU.

I wish that I could get an account of the game, verifying that the Hawk fans did that!

 

[Big Old Booger]

Is that a fact, that KU fans cut down the nets in LNC in 1983? I wonder if there is any way to document the truth of that, so that I can shove it under a few KU fans noses in the future. Anyone know how to dig up a link or a recap of the game that would validate that?

EDIT:

I checked SoonerStats.com in 1983, and Ted Owens' biography in Wikipedia, we split the season games, each winning at home, then KU beating us 77-87 in Norman at what is called "(Conf-Post)".
Also 1983 was the last year that Owens coached at KU.

I wish that I could get an account of the game, verifying that the Hawk fans did that!

The conf-post game was the first round of the big 8 tourney which was then held at campus locations for first round games before the semis were played in KC. That was Owens last win at KU and he was an OU alum.


My brother was there and Billy Tubbs referenced it on KC sportstalk radio.

A few weeks later, the same radio station had an ex-KU color commentator, he had done the job for like 30 years, and asked him about the situation and he claims it's not true, but he was well over 80 when he retired and the interview was done. It happened. Trust me.

Tubbs wouldn't claim it happened if it didn't, and my brother saw it with his own eyes. KU fans will deny it because it goes against their argument of how classless Tubbs was.

 

[BlackwellSooner]

Thanks, BOB. I wasn't doubting you, just wanting some proof other than "a friend of mine said so". Like you said, the Gawks wouldn't admit it, ever.

 

[Big Old Booger]

Thanks, BOB. I wasn't doubting you, just wanting some proof other than "a friend of mine said so". Like you said, the Gawks wouldn't admit it, ever.

I know you weren't (doubting me), but the party line out of Lawrence that it was all a figment of our imaginations is ludicrous.

I will email Tramel this week to see if he remembers it...

 

[NMSooner'80]

Also, don't forget that KU was one of the preseason favorites but finished 7th in the league. That was par for the course for Teddy Boy back then. He was really good, late in his career, about doing "less with more," although he did somehow have OU's number more often than not.

 

[NMSooner'80]

I know you weren't (doubting me), but the party line out of Lawrence that it was all a figment of our imaginations is ludicrous.

I will email Tramel this week to see if he remembers it...

Keep us posted if you get an answer. Since it doesn't involve OSU, maybe he'll side with us for a change.

 

[Sooner04]

You guys worry WAY too much about media perception.