2026 recruiting

mingo's offer list seems a little light for a top ranked 5* pg.
anyone know why?
 
daqman said:
good to see pm playing his fears card going after a top pg
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Hopefully he can pull it off. Lon never really did after Trae (although you could argue that he got Reaves by showing he could be more than a shooter).
 
Hard to understand what happened to Lon's teams after 2016. You would have thought it would have catapulted us higher, but overall we became less competitive as a program. Both Lon and Billy Tubbs had really good stretches, then their teams tailed off over the last 4-5 years of their tenures. In Billy's case, he suffered the head injury when he got run over, and it seemed he just wasn't the same. Then, TCU offered to double his salary from what OU was paying him, and he left.
 
cowboysooner said:
Hard to understand what happened to Lon's teams after 2016. You would have thought it would have catapulted us higher, but overall we became less competitive as a program. Both Lon and Billy Tubbs had really good stretches, then their teams tailed off over the last 4-5 years of their tenures. In Billy's case, he suffered the head injury when he got run over, and it seemed he just wasn't the same. Then, TCU offered to double his salary from what OU was paying him, and he left.
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Your timeline on Billy is off, he got injured several years before he went on his greatest run at OU.

In general, I think people overestimate the effect making a FF will have on a non-blue blood program. There are plenty of schools that make it to one, then hardly even make the tourney over the next few years. We obviously didn’t use it as a springboard under Lon, but that’s more the rule than the exception, and at least he was able to continue getting us to the tournament through the rest of his career.
 
cowboysooner said:
Hard to understand what happened to Lon's teams after 2016. You would have thought it would have catapulted us higher, but overall we became less competitive as a program. Both Lon and Billy Tubbs had really good stretches, then their teams tailed off over the last 4-5 years of their tenures. In Billy's case, he suffered the head injury when he got run over, and it seemed he just wasn't the same. Then, TCU offered to double his salary from what OU was paying him, and he left.
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Not from what I heard. Billy's tailing off was due to internal problems with the administration. Billy recruited a lot of JUCO and Prop 48 players that could really ball but were not great minds in the classroom. Someone, the AD or president I forgot, made all the basketball players stop taking easy classes and made them pick a real major with real classes. That ended up drying out the talent pool not all the way but somewhat.
 
cowboysooner said:
Hard to understand what happened to Lon's teams after 2016. You would have thought it would have catapulted us higher, but overall we became less competitive as a program. Both Lon and Billy Tubbs had really good stretches, then their teams tailed off over the last 4-5 years of their tenures. In Billy's case, he suffered the head injury when he got run over, and it seemed he just wasn't the same. Then, TCU offered to double his salary from what OU was paying him, and he left.
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But Billy's head injury came early in his OU tenure and his greatest success came after that.
 
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