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[WTSooner]

and none of that range will hold up .... just like if me and you want to buy the same house for cash and bid against eachother .. we can pay 10x the appraisal if we want to and that is not blocked in court .. it would just be the value of the house in the market ..

That isn't remotely the same thing.

Pay 10x the appraisal price then try to convince the IRS or a bank that is fair value. A bank isn't going to lone you 10x appraisal value. Why? Because that isn't fair value. You overpaid. In some parts of society and commerce, that is okay. It's not okay when trying to BUY college athletes.

You think everything ends up in court and very little of it actually does. It's really weird. It's a weird default. If you don't let me and my company pay what we want, I/we will sue. Like, what?

 

[WTSooner]

Appreciate the input and perspective.

But as someone who works with appraised values, wouldn't you agree that the market value (which is what fair value is) of what a buyer and seller agree to pay isn't always equal to appraised value? No one is arguing that Delliote and Touche, or any accountant, will have a process to determine a value. But how does that apply to the market value of a name, image, and likeness? And how can you determine a "fair value" from an appraised value on an athlete? The market for a QB at OU is going to be different than the market value for a QB at Boise State. It's not like you can put a slot value for a QB based on "comps" as the variance will be great and wouldn't hold up in court.

IMO, people need to quit looking at this NIL and how stupid the values are and thinking rules & courts will fix it. They can fix the contract or fixed values. But like pro athletes, CBAs, player unions, etc, do not control the endorsement deals. College athletes will win in the courts. Name, image, & likeness is not unlike endorsement deals.

How does it work with Pro athletes and Hollywood? How do they determine what their NIL is worth if they sale advertising with their image, or film a short commercial? Or maybe they let a company use their name, face, or voice. How do they determine what that is worth? How do people that buy and sale sports cards and memorabilia come up with prices? If you list your house for sale, how do you come up with your listing price?

EVERYTHING can be valued. Doesn't mean people aren't willing to pay more in certain instances, but a true value can be determined for pretty much anything that isn't "priceless." Hard to imagine schools or coaches wanting to push the envelope on that and continue having it be a free for all.

 

[WTSooner]

the collective doesn't have to sell them right away .. or really ever how they run their business is not part of the review .. (they could hold them for some future sale ) ..

and again .. if i want to pay an ou player 100k come to speak at a conf for my company and it get rejected my company would sue the clearing house and 100% would win ..

When they sell them doesn't matter.

FV is determined in the present, not what might happen down the road.

"Hey, my house is only worth $250k today, but please pay me $350k for it because it'll be worth that in the future."

lol

 

[BoulderSooner]

When they sell them doesn't matter.

FV is determined in the present, not what might happen down the road.

"Hey, my house is only worth $250k today, but please pay me $350k for it because it'll be worth that in the future."

lol

more like I want to sell my house and i have 4 different 500k offers it is not relevant in some 3rd party org says FV is 350k .. the "market" is 500 ..



but in your example .. that is the entire point of how the collectives can get around any current restrictions that the want to apply now ....

collectives actually making money is not part of the clearing house purview ... so if that say david stone autograph football is worth 100 dollars .. that will fly if it is 10 or 1000 footballs ..

 

[BoulderSooner]

That isn't remotely the same thing.

Pay 10x the appraisal price then try to convince the IRS or a bank that is fair value. A bank isn't going to lone you 10x appraisal value. Why? Because that isn't fair value. You overpaid. In some parts of society and commerce, that is okay. It's not okay when trying to BUY college athletes.

You think everything ends up in court and very little of it actually does. It's really weird. It's a weird default. If you don't let me and my company pay what we want, I/we will sue. Like, what?

we are not talking about a loan ..these are CASH buyers .. and if you have 10 cash buyers that want your house for whatever the reason and they all want to pay 5/10/100x what a bank thinks is the value the banks opinion is not relevant ..

the schools want to make money off of athlete like they have been doing forever ... but want to cap them ..

college football players ARE employees (except in name) ... and they generate billions of dollars collectively .

 

[BoulderSooner]

all contracts are for services rendered. That is what I see is problem with the College NIL. If they are not doing some kind of active advertising, speaking or selling by name in shirt, then the NIL is pay for play. No one is signing a contract to get money without knowing what they expected to do for it.

and if i want to pay a player 100k for a tweet .. i can . that would be a service rendered ..

 

[WTSooner]

more like I want to sell my house and i have 4 different 500k offers it is not relevant in some 3rd party org says FV is 350k .. the "market" is 500 ..



but in your example .. that is the entire point of how the collectives can get around any current restrictions that the want to apply now ....

collectives actually making money is not part of the clearing house purview ... so if that say david stone autograph football is worth 100 dollars .. that will fly if it is 10 or 1000 footballs ..

Maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen where Collectives are paying for signed footballs and either reselling them or holding onto them to sell later.

That scenario would make a lot more since occurring outside of a Collective.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen where Collectives are paying for signed footballs and either reselling them or holding onto them to sell later.

That scenario would make a lot more since occurring outside of a Collective.

just an example of something a collective can do ....

or pay 1000 for an appearance ... if that is approved they could do that 100x ... the point is if the player actually appears and fulfills the contract (with a collective or with a private party) is not in the purview of the clearinghouse

 

[MJSooner]

How does it work with Pro athletes and Hollywood? How do they determine what their NIL is worth if they sale advertising with their image, or film a short commercial? Or maybe they let a company use their name, face, or voice. How do they determine what that is worth? How do people that buy and sale sports cards and memorabilia come up with prices? If you list your house for sale, how do you come up with your listing price?

EVERYTHING can be valued. Doesn't mean people aren't willing to pay more in certain instances, but a true value can be determined for pretty much anything that isn't "priceless." Hard to imagine schools or coaches wanting to push the envelope on that and continue having it be a free for all.

in each of the questions/examples you listed, the value for the services or item is determined between the buyer/potential buyers and the seller. Not by a disinterested third party