A&M and Mizzou made $2.1 million less

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SEC payout was $20.9 million. The smallest year over year increase per team in a decade. Big 12 payout was $23 million per team. The most Mizzou made in the Big 12 was $12.8 million in 2011 meaning we have almost doubled the payout with them gone. lol

Commissioner Bowlsby says the per team payout will climb to $40 million per team in the coming years due to new distribution deals.

Enjoy the dead weight SEC. lol lol
 
SEC payout was $20.9 million. The smallest year over year increase per team in a decade. Big 12 payout was $23 million per team. The most Mizzou made in the Big 12 was $12.8 million in 2011 meaning we have almost doubled the payout with them gone. lol

Commissioner Bowlsby says the per team payout will climb to $40 million per team in the coming years due to new distribution deals.

Enjoy the dead weight SEC. lol lol

Serves 'em right for jumping ship! It would be interesting to know how the geniuses who made that decision feel about the SEC right now?

I love it when a good plan comes together! :woot
 
If I'm reading that right, though, Mizzou is up 8.1 million over last year. So, while they could have done better at OU, they still made a solid business decision -- for Mizzou and for the Big 12.
 
Can't think of a less relevant major state university in the country! They would have done anything possible to get into the B10 and they didn't want them so they slithered off with aggy a&m. They both will be obscure in the SEC in spite of their hopes and dreams!
 
At least Colorado & Nebraska are making significantly more $. Around $27 million each. Leave it to Missouri & A&M to be the only schools to lose $ by changing conferences. lol If the Gators left for the ACC SEC revenues would crumble. It's a better fit for them.
 
If I'm reading that right, though, Mizzou is up 8.1 million over last year. So, while they could have done better at OU, they still made a solid business decision -- for Mizzou and for the Big 12.

No they didn't. Missouri's greed and arrogance cost them Two Million Dollars. If the Big XII would get smart and refuse to play them in all sports and not have have league activities in Kansas City, it would cost that state even more. They are not our friends. They tried to screw us and we should remember it forever. We carried that half ass University for decades and they tried to screw us. Boren and Joe C are extremely soft on this. If I were the President or AD at OU, Missouri (the entire state) would be black listed for life. I would say a bunch publicly, I would just express my desire to have conference activities in a Big XII city and I would carry the vote.
 
No they didn't. Missouri's greed and arrogance cost them Two Million Dollars. If the Big XII would get smart and refuse to play them in all sports and not have have league activities in Kansas City, it would cost that state even more. They are not our friends. They tried to screw us and we should remember it forever. We carried that half ass University for decades and they tried to screw us. Boren and Joe C are extremely soft on this. If I were the President or AD at OU, Missouri (the entire state) would be black listed for life. I would say a bunch publicly, I would just express my desire to have conference activities in a Big XII city and I would carry the vote.

I deffinitly agree that any tournament or game for that matter between 2 big 12 teams should only be played in a city and state that has a big 12 school in it. I have always enjoyed KC, but major benifits go to a state (Missouri) without a big 12 representative in that state. That would be simmiar to the SEC championship game being played in indiana. Great facility, but what benifit does it give the SEC when they have other options.
 
I deffinitly agree that any tournament or game for that matter between 2 big 12 teams should only be played in a city and state that has a big 12 school in it. I have always enjoyed KC, but major benifits go to a state (Missouri) without a big 12 representative in that state. That would be simmiar to the SEC championship game being played in indiana. Great facility, but what benifit does it give the SEC when they have other options.

Agreed, especially when there are outstanding facilities, OKC and Dallas, to hold these events.
 
SEC payout was $20.9 million. The smallest year over year increase per team in a decade. Big 12 payout was $23 million per team. The most Mizzou made in the Big 12 was $12.8 million in 2011 meaning we have almost doubled the payout with them gone. lol

Commissioner Bowlsby says the per team payout will climb to $40 million per team in the coming years due to new distribution deals.

Enjoy the dead weight SEC. lol lol

Your facts are a little off. The Big 12 payout was not $23 million per team. It was for 8 of the 10 teams, while TCU and WVU made $14 million.

In total the Big 12 earned $212 million, which is $21.2 million per team if you're looking at averages. That is only $300k more than the average SEC payout. But the SEC payout does not include their bowl money, which is $16.8 million divided among the 14 schools.
 
Did you reduce Bowl money for the team allowances? What is the Big XII's bowl money?

To me it doesn't matter, what mattes is that Missouri did its absolute best to screw the Big XII. it was their constant complaining and threatening to leave that inspire others. The Big XII should take note and punish the State of Missouri for the actions of its flagship university. You don't reward a "friend" that is not loyal.
 
I could not find a figure on what the Big 12 made in bowl money this year.
 
The SEC payout does include the conference bowl payout. It just doesn't include the allowance given to schools to cover expenses for the bowl they actually participate in which schools routinely lose money on.

The bottom line is that Kansas State, Iowa State & every other legacy Big 12 school received $22 million in 2013 and $23 million in 2014 while Missouri received $20.7 million in 2013 and $20.9 million in 2014. Missouri is $3.4 million in the hole and counting. The number will continue to expand because SEC revenues are not growing 40% faster than Big 12 revenues but they are sharing with 40% more schools. In 2013 Iowa State received $1.3 million more than Missouri and in 2014 the difference increased to $2.1 million!! In addition Big 12 schools have the right to monetize their own media rights ala the Longhorn & Jayhawk networks while the SEC does not.

Enjoy the dead weight SEC!!!
 
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At least Colorado & Nebraska are making significantly more $. Around $27 million each. Leave it to Missouri & A&M to be the only schools to lose $ by changing conferences. lol If the Gators left for the ACC SEC revenues would crumble. It's a better fit for them.

colorado did not make 27 mil ..
 
colorado did not make 27 mil ..

You're right. I was taking the reported revenues of $334 million divided by the 12 teams but they didn't pay all that out due to $105 million in league expenses. Colorado brought in $19.9 million. But hey, they're probably too stoned to care.

So of the 4 teams that left only Nebraska is making more dough.
 
We can laugh right now but that is going to change. Unfortunately the SEC Network starts this year and I will bet the additional payout from the new network will more than make up for the $2 million shortfall. Also haven't TCU and West Va been getting 1/2 shares of payout as they work into being full members. Long term the population of the SEC states make it inevitable that they will get a larger payout than we get from the Big XII.
 
We can laugh right now but that is going to change. Unfortunately the SEC Network starts this year and I will bet the additional payout from the new network will more than make up for the $2 million shortfall. Also haven't TCU and West Va been getting 1/2 shares of payout as they work into being full members. Long term the population of the SEC states make it inevitable that they will get a larger payout than we get from the Big XII.

But we have to count our network, SoonerSportsTV, which although hasn't been publicly stated, has to be at least $5M per year for us. And the whorns get what, 10 to 15M per year for Longwhorn ESPiN?
 
So misleading.

I guarantee you aTm made up that $2M different in other areas. The hype around their move, the SEC in general, the new stadium.....they don't get any of that if they stay in the Big 12.

I personally think they should have stayed in the Big 12 for other reasons, but money isn't one of them. Any difference in the long-run will likely be negligible, and like I said, what they might have lost this year in payout from the conference, I guarantee you they more than made up for in jersey sales, donations, and all that other jazz.

Mizzou on the other hand.....
 
Johnny Manziel is the reason for A&M's recent success, not switching to the SEC. They are even proposing a secondary name of Kyle Field to "The House that Johnny Built". lol lol Poor gomers.
 
Success? Yes. Excitement? Not entirely. Their fans were JACKED when they announced they were leaving the Big 12, and not going to be in UT's shadow anymore.

It won't last forever, but they definitely generated a lot of buzz by leaving and joining the SEC. And that buzz certainly put a lot of coin in the bank.
 
This is just TV revenue. Look at OU's budget. Circa $100 million. And the TV revenue number is about $30 million. So 70% of the money coming in at OU has nothing to do with this. Just keeping it in perspective...

It's all a little misleading for the Big 12 and SEC and even the PAC anyway. What it means right now for the Big 12 is we can justify our individual greed and unwillingness to expand by saying "we're making all this money and it's more than everyone else!". That's true but it probably won't be true for long. I'm talking a couple of years here. Not long.

The ACC number (although they are the only P5 conference that hasn't had their 2013 IRS data reported yet) is pretty well locked in and is 5th with a bullet. ESPN owns all 3 Tiers of their content and there is no ACC Network to grow it so it is pretty much what it is, with slight contractual increases that everybody else gets too. Although they'll get some money for ND too.

The Big Ten Network can grow by adding cable subscribers from the additions of Rutgers and Maryland, although they will be splitting 14 ways (rather than 11.5 or whatever) and soon Nebraska will be getting a full share. So their numbers will fall but may also rise to either comfortably make up the difference or simply blow everyone away. It's very possible, especially if rumors are accurate that the BTN will be paired (by FOX) with YES (Yankees/NYC). Yikes! Our numbers might look quaint as compared to them.

But anyway on to the others...the PAC Networks are still growing and I'd expect their numbers to increase as well. They have some issues but actually have done pretty well so far. I'd guess the Big 12 ultimately dukes it out with the PAC for 3rd place on this list, yearly.

The SEC is about to get a sizable boost too with the SEC Network. Factoring in their rabid fanbases, just about every other household in their footprint is going to get it. That could be HUGE.

Keeping all of this in perspective, they would leave us in the absolute dust if it weren't for the Big 12 being able to keep their Tier 3 programming. Tier 3 is practically 100% of the olympic sports plus essentially one (bad) football game (sometimes two, I think) that the big networks don't want. For OU, that's usually the PPV game and I'd guess OU pockets pretty much all the money apart from production costs and a fee to the broadcaster.

Anyway, the point is - OU made about 30 million this year due to Sooner Sports TV (reports said $7.5 million per yr). Texas made about 38 million due to the LHN. And Kansas even made about 28 or 29 million because they have a really nice T3 deal with their basketball.

So #1, #2 and #3 on the overall list were Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas.
But the reality is, that number is not going to dramatically increase. Bowlsby's number of 40 million includes bowls and playoff and T3, so pretty much everything. This is what they do, pump as much sunshine as possible. Again, Texas already makes about 38 million (23 + 15 for the LHN).

So it all depends on what happens in the future. I'd guess in the next few years, we're gonna know who the big winners were here. The Big 12, aside from the sad sack ACC, could very well be left behind in this particular arms race. Especially by the SEC and B1G.

I don't know that that will happen for certain, but I do know it's far too early to be talking smack about A&M and Mizzou making their move...again this is just TV revenue, not donations and all the rest of it. The simple fact is the Big 12 is gambling, with our revenue model, that this is the way to go. The conferences with conference networks might just leave us behind. Or they might not. It looks good right now. But that could definitely change.
 
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