A Rainy Night in Fort Worth

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DISCLAIMER: These thoughts are not from a professional. These thoughts are from an unabashed Sooner BBall fanatic whose glasses are tinted heavily crimson. I’m not a coach, I’m not an analyst, I’m just a guy who lives and dies with every shot. My knowledge of the X’s and O’s of the sport is tenuous at best. My predictions often prove folly. I once fell hard for Ray Willis. But I do love my Sooner hoops, often too much. Feel free to critique but, please, be gentle.


Spirits were high for me and my traveling companions on September 16, 1998: for the first time since November 24, 1995, our Sooner football team would take the field as an above .500 football team. Buoyed by backup-QB Patrick Fletcher's surprising performance against North Texas in Norman, our "Wishbone" attack seemed poised to make it a 2-0 start in 1998 under third-year coach John Blake. 2-0 could lead to 3-0 with California on the docket at home, and an unblemished conference slate might lead to our first bowl appearance since the disastrous Copper Bowl of 1994. What followed that rainy night in the Fort of Worth was 58 minutes of the most inept offensive football possibly ever played. The fact that we managed to score ten points in the final 140 seconds thanks to a series of mind-bending Horned Frog mistakes still brings me pause all these years later. Soaked, smiling, and now forever linked to my traveling companions with a catchphrase that takes us all back to that turd floater (What time is it in Fort Worth? Ten to nine.) we began the journey back to Ardmore to rendezvous at the home of my grandparents. I expected my grandfather, a Sooner backer who traced his fanaticism to Tom Stidham, to greet me with a celebratory high-five. Instead, I caught both barrels of the heavy artillery. "Don't you realize that every piece of good fortune opens us up to another year of this ****? We'll never make it with this guy. Ever. We need to lose out. He needs to be gone. Now."

Apples aren't oranges. OU Football is not OU Basketball. My grandfather has since passed away, but I know he wouldn't compare John Blake to Porter Moser. Neither would I. But the sentiment stands. Are we going to allow another dismal conference showing to pass by because of a one-and-done NCAA appearance? Are we going to allow another wasted hot start to be forgotten just because we finally beat a lousy Texas team for the first time in eight tries? Are we going to prop up mediocrity even though a top-30 player luckily fell into our lap in the waning days of a recruiting cycle? I hope not. I've seen enough....and I'll tell you why.

CONFERENCE CELLAR DWELLERS:
Yes, the Big 12 was tough. Yes, the SEC was tough. Other teams can navigate the gauntlet of these slates to the tune of .500 ball. Why can't we? When you crunch the numbers, it paints a pretty dreadful picture.

2022: 7-11
2023: 5-13
2024: 8-10
2025: 6-12

Awful. But let's look at it another way. Let's take those final standings and break them down into wins, losses and ties. If your conference record is better than somebody, that's a win. Worse, that's a loss. Even, kiss your sister. It's not rocket science. Here we go:

2022: 7-11 (2-6-1)
2023: 5-13 (0-8-1)
2024: 8-10 (4-8-1)
2025: 6-12 (2-12-1)

In four years of conference play we are 8-34-4 against our brethren. You don't need to read Euclid to know we suck. The proof is in the pudding. Now, I admit that I'm a little biased toward the conference metrics because I was a long-time conference tournament partaker. I loved going to Kansas City. I loved interacting with our friends from across the midwest. What I did not like was being marooned in that God-forsaken Wednesday night slate in a half-empty gym playing the dregs of the league in front of a bunch of drunks who wandered into the building off the streets. The pinheads running the NCAA Tournament bend over backwards to reward crappy teams like us by throwing bones to the bottom feeders of the power leagues, and we still can't do anything with it. I get so aggravated reading this board in March (We should be in! We deserve to go!) WE are lousy! We have a minimum of 18 chances to show the basketball-caring public that we're worth a damn every year and we steer straight into the iceberg EVERY SINGLE TIME!

MOMENTUM:
Our fans suck. We don't deserve to be good. Blah, blah, blah. Nonsense. What OU fans are is fickle, and if you don't win they will stay away in droves. I've been a Sooner fan my entire life, and I've sat through games at Owen Field where the south endzone was stuffed with soldiers from Fort Sill or horny teens in FCA shirts. You have to win games. You have to give fans a reason to show up. If you don't, they will not bother. And Porter Moser's Sooners have NEVER wasted an opportunity to turn momentum into an egg-laying extravaganza. Let's have a look:

2022: 7-1. At home, coming off a great win against Florida. Barf our guts out against a 14-19 Butler team.
2023: Fresh off smoking #2 Alabama, the ice storm hits. Fans are in free. The Aggies are in town. The house is full. We never lead, paving the way for O-State's first Super Sweep of us since 1965.
2024: 3-2 in the league after a great non-con. A road win in Cincy. Horns in Lloyd Noble. Place is packed. Never led. Boatraced.
2025: Phenomenal non-con. Great wins galore. Blow an 18-point lead to the other Aggies and pave the way for yet another batch of February Faceplants (patent pending).

You can dig as deep into your memory as you'd like to go, and you'll find a toe-stubbing around every corner. You'll step on that stray Lego with your barefeet without fail. There's a four-year CV chock full of them.

CLOSE GAME CALAMITIES:
In his 16 seasons as head coach, Barry Switzer lost one game decided by three points or less. ONE. And even though we fumbled the ball 147 times that day, we were still in position to win the game until Billy Sims put the ball on the turf three yards from paydirt. In games decided by three points or less (or in Overtime), Porter Moser is 12-20. That's the mark of a coach right there. Not how many fans show up to a 50-year-old arena. Not how much NIL is corralled by Butler or Sam Houston State or TCU or Providence or UCF. No, when the chips are down, do you get the guys in the right position to make a play? Or do you let a former starter rip your guts out twice in two weeks? Or do you micro manage to death in the Bahamas and turn a sure victory into a nailbiter? Or do you blow a big lead? Or maroon a guy on the bench for 2/3 of the season? Or turn your roster into a revolving door of hired guns? Whatever it is, the die is cast at 12-20. Might the 2022 team have snagged a First Four invite with wins over Utah State and Butler instead of losses? Would two tourney appearances out of four instead of 25% success rate another year? In 2024 it was no small feat to score 84 at home against Taco Tech or 85 against Kelvin's #1 Cougars. One would think that would be enough.....instead both are close losses. Again and again and again.

GETTING OLD THE RIGHT WAY:
We will never get over the hump with this line of roster thinking. Losing seven, eight, nine guys every year and scouring the land to pick up mid-major castoffs has no future. But a third year or Oweh or Uzan would damn sure help. You find a way to keep Kaden Cooper on campus. You play Bijan Cortes and you let him figure it out. You keep Jalen Hill around and let him lead. You let the young players set the standard. You do everything in your power to keep Dayton Forsythe in the fold. You offer his brother. You build from within and you get old with YOUR guys, not the rando on school three in year four. We will never be able to recruit well enough picking and choosing amongst the mercenaries. Ever. Stop throwing life preservers to these rim protectors from Parts Unknown and put together a basketball team! If you've got Alston Mason on your team, use him! Good grief.

DON'T LET A HOT STRETCH DISTRACT YOU:
Every single person in the program should be commended for playing well down the stretch when the whole operation could've easily gone sideways. After getting our doors blown off in Gainesville, the team could've easily packed it in and wished us all good tidings into the abyss. But they did not. They played great. They played hard and they put forth a product of which every Sooner basketball could be proud. But don't let it distract you from the overall narrative of the Moser era. Four years in and this is the high-water mark: a 9-seed in the NCAA Tournament in a season where we won precisely 1/3rd of our conference games. That sucks. I don't care what the NET or the RPI or the WAB or any of these other cockamamie metrics schemed up by some pervert in Mom's basement states: we simply are not good enough. Perhaps I am a cynic, but I feel we wringed every ounce of good fortune that fell into our laps in the form of Jeremiah Fears. Can you imagine if we hitched our whole season onto Jalon Moore getting 18 and 8 every night? I tell you what we'd be: 10-20. And then none of these conversations are happening. We'd be moving on, which is what I think we should still do now. I was born under the sign of Tisdale, and I spent the first 34 years of my life knowing we'd put it together once every couple of years. The NCAA began seeding teams in 1985, and from that year until 2016 our program NEVER went more than four seasons without being a 5-seed once. Our droughts (1996-1999 and 2010-2013) were followed by massive success. We're now on year 9 without a top-5 seed, with no end in sight. I don't expect a Final Four every year. I don't expect conference titles every year. But what I do expect is a chance at a Sweet 16 once every four or five seasons. Since Moser's arrival, 70 different D-1 programs have won a game in the Field of 64. We have not.

I welcome your rebuttals. I would love to see the bright lights that lie ahead. I welcome the plan moving forward, assuming there is one. I just don't see it. I see a roster in complete flux that will be filled next year by a bunch of guys on school three looking for a chance to play in the nation's premier basketball conference. What do we do? What do teams dread about playing Oklahoma? Certainly not our ferocious rebounding. Absolutely not our vaunted offensive sets. Is this it? Another season near the bottom of the league. Another date with a bottom feeder in Nashville on night one of the conference tournament? Is this the ceiling? A 9-seed following a 6-12 slate? I don't think this is good enough, and I believe it's time for a change. I've seen enough. Have you?

Thank you for your time.
 
DISCLAIMER: These thoughts are not from a professional. These thoughts are from an unabashed Sooner BBall fanatic whose glasses are tinted heavily crimson. I’m not a coach, I’m not an analyst, I’m just a guy who lives and dies with every shot. My knowledge of the X’s and O’s of the sport is tenuous at best. My predictions often prove folly. I once fell hard for Ray Willis. But I do love my Sooner hoops, often too much. Feel free to critique but, please, be gentle.


Spirits were high for me and my traveling companions on September 16, 1998: for the first time since November 24, 1995, our Sooner football team would take the field as an above .500 football team. Buoyed by backup-QB Patrick Fletcher's surprising performance against North Texas in Norman, our "Wishbone" attack seemed poised to make it a 2-0 start in 1998 under third-year coach John Blake. 2-0 could lead to 3-0 with California on the docket at home, and an unblemished conference slate might lead to our first bowl appearance since the disastrous Copper Bowl of 1994. What followed that rainy night in the Fort of Worth was 58 minutes of the most inept offensive football possibly ever played. The fact that we managed to score ten points in the final 140 seconds thanks to a series of mind-bending Horned Frog mistakes still brings me pause all these years later. Soaked, smiling, and now forever linked to my traveling companions with a catchphrase that takes us all back to that turd floater (What time is it in Fort Worth? Ten to nine.) we began the journey back to Ardmore to rendezvous at the home of my grandparents. I expected my grandfather, a Sooner backer who traced his fanaticism to Tom Stidham, to greet me with a celebratory high-five. Instead, I caught both barrels of the heavy artillery. "Don't you realize that every piece of good fortune opens us up to another year of this ****? We'll never make it with this guy. Ever. We need to lose out. He needs to be gone. Now."

Apples aren't oranges. OU Football is not OU Basketball. My grandfather has since passed away, but I know he wouldn't compare John Blake to Porter Moser. Neither would I. But the sentiment stands. Are we going to allow another dismal conference showing to pass by because of a one-and-done NCAA appearance? Are we going to allow another wasted hot start to be forgotten just because we finally beat a lousy Texas team for the first time in eight tries? Are we going to prop up mediocrity even though a top-30 player luckily fell into our lap in the waning days of a recruiting cycle? I hope not. I've seen enough....and I'll tell you why.

CONFERENCE CELLAR DWELLERS:
Yes, the Big 12 was tough. Yes, the SEC was tough. Other teams can navigate the gauntlet of these slates to the tune of .500 ball. Why can't we? When you crunch the numbers, it paints a pretty dreadful picture.

2022: 7-11
2023: 5-13
2024: 8-10
2025: 6-12

Awful. But let's look at it another way. Let's take those final standings and break them down into wins, losses and ties. If your conference record is better than somebody, that's a win. Worse, that's a loss. Even, kiss your sister. It's not rocket science. Here we go:

2022: 7-11 (2-6-1)
2023: 5-13 (0-8-1)
2024: 8-10 (4-8-1)
2025: 6-12 (2-12-1)

In four years of conference play we are 8-34-4 against our brethren. You don't need to read Euclid to know we suck. The proof is in the pudding. Now, I admit that I'm a little biased toward the conference metrics because I was a long-time conference tournament partaker. I loved going to Kansas City. I loved interacting with our friends from across the midwest. What I did not like was being marooned in that God-forsaken Wednesday night slate in a half-empty gym playing the dregs of the league in front of a bunch of drunks who wandered into the building off the streets. The pinheads running the NCAA Tournament bend over backwards to reward crappy teams like us by throwing bones to the bottom feeders of the power leagues, and we still can't do anything with it. I get so aggravated reading this board in March (We should be in! We deserve to go!) WE are lousy! We have a minimum of 18 chances to show the basketball-caring public that we're worth a damn every year and we steer straight into the iceberg EVERY SINGLE TIME!

MOMENTUM:
Our fans suck. We don't deserve to be good. Blah, blah, blah. Nonsense. What OU fans are is fickle, and if you don't win they will stay away in droves. I've been a Sooner fan my entire life, and I've sat through games at Owen Field where the south endzone was stuffed with soldiers from Fort Sill or horny teens in FCA shirts. You have to win games. You have to give fans a reason to show up. If you don't, they will not bother. And Porter Moser's Sooners have NEVER wasted an opportunity to turn momentum into an egg-laying extravaganza. Let's have a look:

2022: 7-1. At home, coming off a great win against Florida. Barf our guts out against a 14-19 Butler team.
2023: Fresh off smoking #2 Alabama, the ice storm hits. Fans are in free. The Aggies are in town. The house is full. We never lead, paving the way for O-State's first Super Sweep of us since 1965.
2024: 3-2 in the league after a great non-con. A road win in Cincy. Horns in Lloyd Noble. Place is packed. Never led. Boatraced.
2025: Phenomenal non-con. Great wins galore. Blow an 18-point lead to the other Aggies and pave the way for yet another batch of February Faceplants (patent pending).

You can dig as deep into your memory as you'd like to go, and you'll find a toe-stubbing around every corner. You'll step on that stray Lego with your barefeet without fail. There's a four-year CV chock full of them.

CLOSE GAME CALAMITIES:
In his 16 seasons as head coach, Barry Switzer lost one game decided by three points or less. ONE. And even though we fumbled the ball 147 times that day, we were still in position to win the game until Billy Sims put the ball on the turf three yards from paydirt. In games decided by three points or less (or in Overtime), Porter Moser is 12-20. That's the mark of a coach right there. Not how many fans show up to a 50-year-old arena. Not how much NIL is corralled by Butler or Sam Houston State or TCU or Providence or UCF. No, when the chips are down, do you get the guys in the right position to make a play? Or do you let a former starter rip your guts out twice in two weeks? Or do you micro manage to death in the Bahamas and turn a sure victory into a nailbiter? Or do you blow a big lead? Or maroon a guy on the bench for 2/3 of the season? Or turn your roster into a revolving door of hired guns? Whatever it is, the die is cast at 12-20. Might the 2022 team have snagged a First Four invite with wins over Utah State and Butler instead of losses? Would two tourney appearances out of four instead of 25% success rate another year? In 2024 it was no small feat to score 84 at home against Taco Tech or 85 against Kelvin's #1 Cougars. One would think that would be enough.....instead both are close losses. Again and again and again.

GETTING OLD THE RIGHT WAY:
We will never get over the hump with this line of roster thinking. Losing seven, eight, nine guys every year and scouring the land to pick up mid-major castoffs has no future. But a third year or Oweh or Uzan would damn sure help. You find a way to keep Kaden Cooper on campus. You play Bijan Cortes and you let him figure it out. You keep Jalen Hill around and let him lead. You let the young players set the standard. You do everything in your power to keep Dayton Forsythe in the fold. You offer his brother. You build from within and you get old with YOUR guys, not the rando on school three in year four. We will never be able to recruit well enough picking and choosing amongst the mercenaries. Ever. Stop throwing life preservers to these rim protectors from Parts Unknown and put together a basketball team! If you've got Alston Mason on your team, use him! Good grief.

DON'T LET A HOT STRETCH DISTRACT YOU:
Every single person in the program should be commended for playing well down the stretch when the whole operation could've easily gone sideways. After getting our doors blown off in Gainesville, the team could've easily packed it in and wished us all good tidings into the abyss. But they did not. They played great. They played hard and they put forth a product of which every Sooner basketball could be proud. But don't let it distract you from the overall narrative of the Moser era. Four years in and this is the high-water mark: a 9-seed in the NCAA Tournament in a season where we won precisely 1/3rd of our conference games. That sucks. I don't care what the NET or the RPI or the WAB or any of these other cockamamie metrics schemed up by some pervert in Mom's basement states: we simply are not good enough. Perhaps I am a cynic, but I feel we wringed every ounce of good fortune that fell into our laps in the form of Jeremiah Fears. Can you imagine if we hitched our whole season onto Jalon Moore getting 18 and 8 every night? I tell you what we'd be: 10-20. And then none of these conversations are happening. We'd be moving on, which is what I think we should still do now. I was born under the sign of Tisdale, and I spent the first 34 years of my life knowing we'd put it together once every couple of years. The NCAA began seeding teams in 1985, and from that year until 2016 our program NEVER went more than four seasons without being a 5-seed once. Our droughts (1996-1999 and 2010-2013) were followed by massive success. We're now on year 9 without a top-5 seed, with no end in sight. I don't expect a Final Four every year. I don't expect conference titles every year. But what I do expect is a chance at a Sweet 16 once every four or five seasons. Since Moser's arrival, 70 different D-1 programs have won a game in the Field of 64. We have not.

I welcome your rebuttals. I would love to see the bright lights that lie ahead. I welcome the plan moving forward, assuming there is one. I just don't see it. I see a roster in complete flux that will be filled next year by a bunch of guys on school three looking for a chance to play in the nation's premier basketball conference. What do we do? What do teams dread about playing Oklahoma? Certainly not our ferocious rebounding. Absolutely not our vaunted offensive sets. Is this it? Another season near the bottom of the league. Another date with a bottom feeder in Nashville on night one of the conference tournament? Is this the ceiling? A 9-seed following a 6-12 slate? I don't think this is good enough, and I believe it's time for a change. I've seen enough. Have you?

Thank you for your time.
Spot on. Agree with all of it except a strict commitment to your theory of growing old the right way. We have to do both. Surely we can find a happy medium. We need an analytics/algorithm dork to crunch numbers and moneyball our team every year.
 
I haven't read everything but

1. Love the effort and eloquence.

2. You play Bijan Cortes and you let him figure it out

Can we just admit that he wasn't very good now? I know we love our in-state kids but he struggled at Wichita State. Was closer to being a D2 kid than a D1 "star".
 
The scary thing is that you even see “media” members (using the term loosely, hence the quotation marks” praising Moser for the team’s accomplishments this season. We made the tourney in a season where the bubble was god awful, so I guess that’s something. But what else did we accomplish? Went 6-12 in our league. Went under .500 against teams in the top 300 of the NET. Lost an inordinate number of games in increasingly inexplicable ways. Failed for the fourth straight year to defend home court.

I’m glad you mentioned the near disaster in Atlantis. The last 45 seconds of that game (especially the last four second) might have been the most poorly managed sequence of basketball I’ve ever seen. Some posters chided those of us who complained because, after all, a win is a win, right? In reality, it showed that Moser still hadn’t improved his late-game coaching, or, more accurately, overcoaching. And guess what? It happened time and again, and more often than not, it did cost us game.

People paint this as an NIL issue as if it’s a zero sum game. Two things can be true: our NIL can be subpar, AND our coach can be bad. I would love to improve both. But if the NIL doesn’t get better, I still think we can do a lot better than Porter Moser. There are a lot of coaches who build their careers on getting more from less. From overachieving what their roster’s talent level suggests. From giving their team a strategic advantage. From developing, no, demanding toughness and high IQ players. Moser does none of those things. And if he hadn’t caught lightning in a bottle for two weeks in 2018, he likely would be a low level head coach or an assistant coach. And the sad thing is, unless some other program takes him off our hands, we are almost surely stuck with him for at least another 51 weeks, till we get bounced from Nashville.
 
I haven't read everything but

1. Love the effort and eloquence.

2. You play Bijan Cortes and you let him figure it out

Can we just admit that he wasn't very good now? I know we love our in-state kids but he struggled at Wichita State. Was closer to being a D2 kid than a D1 "star".
Cortes stats were really good at ou in smaller sample sizes
 
Perfect, except Cortez…. I’ve watched him at WSU. He’s decent and I liked him at ou…

Also agree we need a balance, long term/portal.

Self had a crappy ONE year with a team of studs it can happen.
 
Certainly no rebuttals here. A couple of my OU friends who rarely/never watch Sooner basketball texted me after the game last, and they were proud of our effort and hope that will be a springboard into next year. It will not. Because the only guys who took the floor who will still be around in 8 months are maybe Forsythe and Wague. Those are two very solid pieces and Porter needs to do everything he can to keep them, but they are just two guys - role players at that. Otherwise it’ll be a complete roster turnaround for the 4th year in a row.

Similarly, my dad (a rabid, diehard Sooner basketball fan and longtime season ticket holder) was watching Xavier the other day and asked me why John Hugely looked so familiar. He had completely forgotten he was on our team last year. This one year rental roster building system is awful for a million reasons, but one of them is it makes it impossible for fans to build connections with them, particularly for a fickle fan base. Some of this is the nature of college sports, the transfer portal, NIL, etc and can’t all be blamed on Porter, but there are plenty of teams around the country who can retain the bulk of their rosters and only rely on the portal to fill in holes (Michigan State, Northwestern, to name a couple). I’m bracing for yet another complete rebuild and there almost certainly won’t be a 17 year old draft pick that falls into our lap at the 11th hour this time.
 
I like your theme here. The question to me is whether Moser will ever get this program to where you or I want it to be. And my expectations aren’t really very high. It’s obviously not my decision just like his hiring and contract weren’t my decision. But the answer for me is as clear now as it was last season. It became crystal clear to me last year when I drove down for the Texas game to see an almost full arena and loud fans; and to witness one of the worst coached and executed basketball games I have ever seen. And, sadly, there were many signs before and after.

I agree that Moser (a very nice and solid man) is not John Blake and we could have a worse coach. I am just tired of that same old feeling that we rarely have a chance. I want the ability to take down a Top 5 or even Top 10 program on a given night (not a December ranking); just knowing it can happen. A lot of fans will show up for that game if they think we have a chance. Sadly, I have been left with finally defeating an average Texas team once in 4 years as the peak of my jubilant meter.
 
I very much share the general sentiments, except for the Cortes comments and the random drive by against advanced analytics. Definitely frustrated by some of the high profile let downs & late game execution (drove down for the 04 Texas games, Tech in 2024, flew into KC for the 24 tournament to see the TCU letdown). The stretch of being truly not-competitive against AU/Tenn/Mizz/Florida and the LSU debacle was pretty illustrative. Even games they win (the Bahamas) are painful to watch haha.

Not sure if it’s your main point but I would say roster construction/management is the foundational item. Definitely exacerbated by OU’s lack of institutional support and evident by his higher than expected turnover, Moser struggles in that regard more than the typical coach even if many are struggling. Even if the institutional support was fixed (it won’t be IMO, Moser has a 4 year sample size at OU and Castiglione has a 25+ year sample size), I don’t think Moser is the guy to get OU where most want them to be (making tournament 3/4 years, being very competitive 1/4 is my personal goal).

If the two options are run this back w/o Fears and finish in the SEC basement or blow this up, pay the buyout & finish close to the SEC basement (assuming the next coach easily wins all close games because he’s not the massive dip**** that many believe Moser is), I’d probably lean eating the extra year of Moser’s contract.
 
I very much share the general sentiments, except for the Cortes comments and the random drive by against advanced analytics. Definitely frustrated by some of the high profile let downs & late game execution (drove down for the 04 Texas games, Tech in 2024, flew into KC for the 24 tournament to see the TCU letdown). The stretch of being truly not-competitive against AU/Tenn/Mizz/Florida and the LSU debacle was pretty illustrative. Even games they win (the Bahamas) are painful to watch haha.

Not sure if it’s your main point but I would say roster construction/management is the foundational item. Definitely exacerbated by OU’s lack of institutional support and evident by his higher than expected turnover, Moser struggles in that regard more than the typical coach even if many are struggling. Even if the institutional support was fixed (it won’t be IMO, Moser has a 4 year sample size at OU and Castiglione has a 25+ year sample size), I don’t think Moser is the guy to get OU where most want them to be (making tournament 3/4 years, being very competitive 1/4 is my personal goal).

If the two options are run this back w/o Fears and finish in the SEC basement or blow this up, pay the buyout & finish close to the SEC basement (assuming the next coach easily wins all close games because he’s not the massive dip**** that many believe Moser is), I’d probably lean eating the extra year of Moser’s contract.
Yeah but ou won't lean that way bc joe c has put the football team in dire straits and football is king. Pm is back 99% unless he leaves which is best for us
 
DISCLAIMER: These thoughts are not from a professional. These thoughts are from an unabashed Sooner BBall fanatic whose glasses are tinted heavily crimson. I’m not a coach, I’m not an analyst, I’m just a guy who lives and dies with every shot. My knowledge of the X’s and O’s of the sport is tenuous at best. My predictions often prove folly. I once fell hard for Ray Willis. But I do love my Sooner hoops, often too much. Feel free to critique but, please, be gentle.


Spirits were high for me and my traveling companions on September 16, 1998: for the first time since November 24, 1995, our Sooner football team would take the field as an above .500 football team. Buoyed by backup-QB Patrick Fletcher's surprising performance against North Texas in Norman, our "Wishbone" attack seemed poised to make it a 2-0 start in 1998 under third-year coach John Blake. 2-0 could lead to 3-0 with California on the docket at home, and an unblemished conference slate might lead to our first bowl appearance since the disastrous Copper Bowl of 1994. What followed that rainy night in the Fort of Worth was 58 minutes of the most inept offensive football possibly ever played. The fact that we managed to score ten points in the final 140 seconds thanks to a series of mind-bending Horned Frog mistakes still brings me pause all these years later. Soaked, smiling, and now forever linked to my traveling companions with a catchphrase that takes us all back to that turd floater (What time is it in Fort Worth? Ten to nine.) we began the journey back to Ardmore to rendezvous at the home of my grandparents. I expected my grandfather, a Sooner backer who traced his fanaticism to Tom Stidham, to greet me with a celebratory high-five. Instead, I caught both barrels of the heavy artillery. "Don't you realize that every piece of good fortune opens us up to another year of this ****? We'll never make it with this guy. Ever. We need to lose out. He needs to be gone. Now."

Apples aren't oranges. OU Football is not OU Basketball. My grandfather has since passed away, but I know he wouldn't compare John Blake to Porter Moser. Neither would I. But the sentiment stands. Are we going to allow another dismal conference showing to pass by because of a one-and-done NCAA appearance? Are we going to allow another wasted hot start to be forgotten just because we finally beat a lousy Texas team for the first time in eight tries? Are we going to prop up mediocrity even though a top-30 player luckily fell into our lap in the waning days of a recruiting cycle? I hope not. I've seen enough....and I'll tell you why.

CONFERENCE CELLAR DWELLERS:
Yes, the Big 12 was tough. Yes, the SEC was tough. Other teams can navigate the gauntlet of these slates to the tune of .500 ball. Why can't we? When you crunch the numbers, it paints a pretty dreadful picture.

2022: 7-11
2023: 5-13
2024: 8-10
2025: 6-12

Awful. But let's look at it another way. Let's take those final standings and break them down into wins, losses and ties. If your conference record is better than somebody, that's a win. Worse, that's a loss. Even, kiss your sister. It's not rocket science. Here we go:

2022: 7-11 (2-6-1)
2023: 5-13 (0-8-1)
2024: 8-10 (4-8-1)
2025: 6-12 (2-12-1)

In four years of conference play we are 8-34-4 against our brethren. You don't need to read Euclid to know we suck. The proof is in the pudding. Now, I admit that I'm a little biased toward the conference metrics because I was a long-time conference tournament partaker. I loved going to Kansas City. I loved interacting with our friends from across the midwest. What I did not like was being marooned in that God-forsaken Wednesday night slate in a half-empty gym playing the dregs of the league in front of a bunch of drunks who wandered into the building off the streets. The pinheads running the NCAA Tournament bend over backwards to reward crappy teams like us by throwing bones to the bottom feeders of the power leagues, and we still can't do anything with it. I get so aggravated reading this board in March (We should be in! We deserve to go!) WE are lousy! We have a minimum of 18 chances to show the basketball-caring public that we're worth a damn every year and we steer straight into the iceberg EVERY SINGLE TIME!

MOMENTUM:
Our fans suck. We don't deserve to be good. Blah, blah, blah. Nonsense. What OU fans are is fickle, and if you don't win they will stay away in droves. I've been a Sooner fan my entire life, and I've sat through games at Owen Field where the south endzone was stuffed with soldiers from Fort Sill or horny teens in FCA shirts. You have to win games. You have to give fans a reason to show up. If you don't, they will not bother. And Porter Moser's Sooners have NEVER wasted an opportunity to turn momentum into an egg-laying extravaganza. Let's have a look:

2022: 7-1. At home, coming off a great win against Florida. Barf our guts out against a 14-19 Butler team.
2023: Fresh off smoking #2 Alabama, the ice storm hits. Fans are in free. The Aggies are in town. The house is full. We never lead, paving the way for O-State's first Super Sweep of us since 1965.
2024: 3-2 in the league after a great non-con. A road win in Cincy. Horns in Lloyd Noble. Place is packed. Never led. Boatraced.
2025: Phenomenal non-con. Great wins galore. Blow an 18-point lead to the other Aggies and pave the way for yet another batch of February Faceplants (patent pending).

You can dig as deep into your memory as you'd like to go, and you'll find a toe-stubbing around every corner. You'll step on that stray Lego with your barefeet without fail. There's a four-year CV chock full of them.

CLOSE GAME CALAMITIES:
In his 16 seasons as head coach, Barry Switzer lost one game decided by three points or less. ONE. And even though we fumbled the ball 147 times that day, we were still in position to win the game until Billy Sims put the ball on the turf three yards from paydirt. In games decided by three points or less (or in Overtime), Porter Moser is 12-20. That's the mark of a coach right there. Not how many fans show up to a 50-year-old arena. Not how much NIL is corralled by Butler or Sam Houston State or TCU or Providence or UCF. No, when the chips are down, do you get the guys in the right position to make a play? Or do you let a former starter rip your guts out twice in two weeks? Or do you micro manage to death in the Bahamas and turn a sure victory into a nailbiter? Or do you blow a big lead? Or maroon a guy on the bench for 2/3 of the season? Or turn your roster into a revolving door of hired guns? Whatever it is, the die is cast at 12-20. Might the 2022 team have snagged a First Four invite with wins over Utah State and Butler instead of losses? Would two tourney appearances out of four instead of 25% success rate another year? In 2024 it was no small feat to score 84 at home against Taco Tech or 85 against Kelvin's #1 Cougars. One would think that would be enough.....instead both are close losses. Again and again and again.

GETTING OLD THE RIGHT WAY:
We will never get over the hump with this line of roster thinking. Losing seven, eight, nine guys every year and scouring the land to pick up mid-major castoffs has no future. But a third year or Oweh or Uzan would damn sure help. You find a way to keep Kaden Cooper on campus. You play Bijan Cortes and you let him figure it out. You keep Jalen Hill around and let him lead. You let the young players set the standard. You do everything in your power to keep Dayton Forsythe in the fold. You offer his brother. You build from within and you get old with YOUR guys, not the rando on school three in year four. We will never be able to recruit well enough picking and choosing amongst the mercenaries. Ever. Stop throwing life preservers to these rim protectors from Parts Unknown and put together a basketball team! If you've got Alston Mason on your team, use him! Good grief.

DON'T LET A HOT STRETCH DISTRACT YOU:
Every single person in the program should be commended for playing well down the stretch when the whole operation could've easily gone sideways. After getting our doors blown off in Gainesville, the team could've easily packed it in and wished us all good tidings into the abyss. But they did not. They played great. They played hard and they put forth a product of which every Sooner basketball could be proud. But don't let it distract you from the overall narrative of the Moser era. Four years in and this is the high-water mark: a 9-seed in the NCAA Tournament in a season where we won precisely 1/3rd of our conference games. That sucks. I don't care what the NET or the RPI or the WAB or any of these other cockamamie metrics schemed up by some pervert in Mom's basement states: we simply are not good enough. Perhaps I am a cynic, but I feel we wringed every ounce of good fortune that fell into our laps in the form of Jeremiah Fears. Can you imagine if we hitched our whole season onto Jalon Moore getting 18 and 8 every night? I tell you what we'd be: 10-20. And then none of these conversations are happening. We'd be moving on, which is what I think we should still do now. I was born under the sign of Tisdale, and I spent the first 34 years of my life knowing we'd put it together once every couple of years. The NCAA began seeding teams in 1985, and from that year until 2016 our program NEVER went more than four seasons without being a 5-seed once. Our droughts (1996-1999 and 2010-2013) were followed by massive success. We're now on year 9 without a top-5 seed, with no end in sight. I don't expect a Final Four every year. I don't expect conference titles every year. But what I do expect is a chance at a Sweet 16 once every four or five seasons. Since Moser's arrival, 70 different D-1 programs have won a game in the Field of 64. We have not.

I welcome your rebuttals. I would love to see the bright lights that lie ahead. I welcome the plan moving forward, assuming there is one. I just don't see it. I see a roster in complete flux that will be filled next year by a bunch of guys on school three looking for a chance to play in the nation's premier basketball conference. What do we do? What do teams dread about playing Oklahoma? Certainly not our ferocious rebounding. Absolutely not our vaunted offensive sets. Is this it? Another season near the bottom of the league. Another date with a bottom feeder in Nashville on night one of the conference tournament? Is this the ceiling? A 9-seed following a 6-12 slate? I don't think this is good enough, and I believe it's time for a change. I've seen enough. Have you?

Thank you for your time.
Good stuff.

I was at that football game in Fort Worth in 1998. I don't know what was uglier: the weather or the game. Purely awful.

Porter is 80-something games under .500 in conference games without Cam Krutwig. That includes a lot of games in the Valley as well as in the Big 12.

OU fans are indeed fickle. OU fans like football and winning (currently, that's softball). As you well document, Porter has lost the fans with all the toe-stubbing in close games and the big losses to rivals.

We now play in a conference full of football schools. Schools such as Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee have stepped up to be great in hoops. No reason why we can't, either.

We can't fire Porter after making the tournament. But the administration and most importantly the donors aren't going to help him be better. He's shown he's not the guy for us. We can hope he finds the landing spot that he wants.
 
Just a thought…

The admin/BMD’s … don’t step up next yr in ref to NIL/ new arena etc.

Basically forcing porter to remove himself wanting more support at a non football school. Elevating the buyout,

Course bad is any other candidate would / wouldn’t believe the admin if they said we ARE putting more money towards it.

Just a thought
 
Very well-expressed! I’m on the same page with your thoughts—great work.

Does OU have the necessary resources, and are they willing to utilize them to compete at the highest level?
 
Very well-expressed! I’m on the same page with your thoughts—great work.

Does OU have the necessary resources, and are they willing to utilize them to compete at the highest level?
What sucks is that Oklahoma has a chance to take a leap in Bball in the new world and they're missing their opportunity. 5-10 years ago, very few in the SEC, gave a crap about basketball but that has shifted significantly. It was a damn gauntlet this year and will only continue to get better. If they would pony up, we could find ourselves in a great spot but that doesn't seem to be a priority. We're still waiting on the new arena JC promised during Lon Kruger's introductory press conference. SMDH.
 
Zero he would stay… no depth coming back…

He’s gone, either nba or nil to a better team.
He reportedly is very high on Coach Moser (as is, reportedly, his father). They--again, reportedly--feel he did a great of job of coaching Jeremiah and shepherding him through his freshman season. I would imagine he's going pro, but if he stayed in college, who knows? We potentially have some talent coming back (no sure things nowadays), and I would think the chance to play with him would appeal to a good many players in the portal.
 
“Potentially”…

Maybe he and his father are good with moser.

Just my 2 cents…if he stays in college, he’ll get pursued by a lot of very established teams that can pay him more than we can.

Heck ksu paid 2 mill for that kid and they didn’t even make the tourney.

Guess we’ll find out if he’s still going to classes…👍🏻
 
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