All Kentucky Freshman going pro, according to Lamb

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Calipari really has mastered the student-athlete model. I hope the rules change. Frankly I am quite sick of the 1 and done player, they only have to stay eligibile for school for one semester and they are gone. Either let them go pro right out of high school or make them stay 2 or 3 years like baseball. The NBA is using this model to have a free NBADL.

The continuity of basketball is null and as a result we barely get to watch these players get better, learn to play like a team etc.
 
Calipari really has mastered the student-athlete model. I hope the rules change. Frankly I am quite sick of the 1 and done player, they only have to stay eligibile for school for one semester and they are gone. Either let them go pro right out of high school or make them stay 2 or 3 years like baseball. The NBA is using this model to have a free NBADL.

The continuity of basketball is null and as a result we barely get to watch these players get better, learn to play like a team etc.

+1. I hate this rule. Its destroying the game, IMO.

Wonder how Calipari will do next year; I haven't kept up with UK recruiting, does he have another John Wall coming in?
 
number one PG Brandon Knight coming in.

I think the only way the NCAA can stop this is make a rule that says you can only fufill 5 new scholarship players a year. Kentucky will be replacing 9 this year, as long as Calipari is there it will be like this every year.
 
If the graduation rate or APR rule or whatever it is supposed to be works like it should, schools that abuse the one and done should lose some scholarships. Isn't that how it is supposed to work?
 
If the graduation rate or APR rule or whatever it is supposed to be works like it should, schools that abuse the one and done should lose some scholarships. Isn't that how it is supposed to work?

Our APR can take a hit if we lose Hardrick, Allen, Gallon, and Warren, to go along with TMG and Willis. It may be worth a loss of scholarship though.
 
I think it hurts the game, but I don't think anyone has the right to tell an individual he has to wait a certain number of years to make a living.
 
If Cal could have all his elite players declare early as freshman, I don't think he would care. I don't think he would care if Orton went pro because he can just offer his spot to the next available one and done player.
 
Our APR can take a hit if we lose Hardrick, Allen, Gallon, and Warren, to go along with TMG and Willis. It may be worth a loss of scholarship though.

The thing I don't like about it is if Allen goes to UCO to be close to his girlfriend and kid and graduates from there it shouldn't hurt us. Same thing if Willis ends up with a degree where ever he transfers to. That would still give us Blake, TMG, Tiny, and Willie for the last 2 years but a lot better than 7 or 8
 
I hope they all go pro. I cant stand hearing about John Wall. I love ESPN but they beat these cats into your head and it get annoying... A la Tebow, LBJ, TO, etc...
 
I am sick and tired of hearing the argument that it is not right to tell someone they have to wait to make a living. There are many professions that people must wait to make a living in. Doctors, lawyers, architects, dentists, and many many others have to jump through several hoops before entering their profession. Nobody is saying they are not allowed to make a living. They are saying they need to develop and mature before making a living in the NBA playing basketball. There is nothing illegal, immoral, or unconstituional about it!!!
 
Yeah, I never understood the argument for letting kids jump straight to the NBA out of HS. An employer can set all sort of requirements for application to a job position. I had to have a college degree in a certain area for mine as do most other professionals. I guess you could apply right out of high school for my job, but they would just chuck it in the trash.
 
If this happens 2 or 3 years in a row - exit the tournament prior to the FF followed by all freshmen leaving for the NBA, how will the Kentucky fans react?
 
The baseball rule would be the most appropriate. Then a player has the right to go pro out of high school or be required to complete three years if they commit to a school.

As it stands Kentucky is probably the best job they can get until they turn pro.

I too am a little weary with the don't keep from making a living bit. They are getting a free education and free food and board. The everyone should be able to do anything they want anytime and anywhere is part of what is wrong in the world today. There was a time when commitments meant something.
 
I am sick and tired of hearing the argument that it is not right to tell someone they have to wait to make a living. There are many professions that people must wait to make a living in. Doctors, lawyers, architects, dentists, and many many others have to jump through several hoops before entering their profession. Nobody is saying they are not allowed to make a living. They are saying they need to develop and mature before making a living in the NBA playing basketball. There is nothing illegal, immoral, or unconstituional about it!!!

Most athletes aren't able to practice their profession for nearly as long as a doctor or lawyer. I'm not sure but I believe the average career length for an athlete (NBA, NFL, and MLB) is something like eight years. I don't think it's fair to force an athlete to go to college (especially if they're physically prepared for the pros) when they have such a small window to compete.

I agree that the MLB rule should be used as a model for college basketball.
 
^agreed. Especially if the NBA is trying to develop a bigger minor league program. The NBA needs to have a rule where you can come out of HS but you have to stay at least 2 or 3 years if you go to college.
 
I am sick and tired of hearing the argument that it is not right to tell someone they have to wait to make a living. There are many professions that people must wait to make a living in. Doctors, lawyers, architects, dentists, and many many others have to jump through several hoops before entering their profession. Nobody is saying they are not allowed to make a living. They are saying they need to develop and mature before making a living in the NBA playing basketball. There is nothing illegal, immoral, or unconstituional about it!!!

Exactly.

And furthermore, the NBA is a private organization. It can set whatever rules it wants for who it "lets in."

Most athletes aren't able to practice their profession for nearly as long as a doctor or lawyer. I'm not sure but I believe the average career length for an athlete (NBA, NFL, and MLB) is something like eight years. I don't think it's fair to force an athlete to go to college (especially if they're physically prepared for the pros) when they have such a small window to compete.

Related to my previous point, if the NBA decides that it's in its own best interest to "force" HS kids to play college ball for at least two years, then they are perfectly in their right to do so as an organization.

Every indvidual business out there has its own standards about who it hires.

Nobody is telling these kids that they can't "make a living" playing basketball right out of HS... they just can't do it in the NBA.

The baseball rule wouldn't be appropriate because the NBA has no farm system that is equivalent to baseball's minor leagues.

They have the NBADL, which is an exact equivalent to baseball's minor leagues.

And I also love the MLB rule... it would be absolutly idea for the NBA to adopt.
 
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I am sick and tired of hearing the argument that it is not right to tell someone they have to wait to make a living. There are many professions that people must wait to make a living in. Doctors, lawyers, architects, dentists, and many many others have to jump through several hoops before entering their profession. Nobody is saying they are not allowed to make a living. They are saying they need to develop and mature before making a living in the NBA playing basketball. There is nothing illegal, immoral, or unconstituional about it!!!

What "hoops" do you have to jump thru to become a Doctor, Architect, Dentist or whatever? If you pass the courses and exams you are in.
Why make a hoops prodigy go waste a year in college? Please don't tell me it's for them to mature a year or for them to get an "education" for a year. It's a joke. They can take 12 hours of crap first semester and don't even have to set a foot in the classroom the 2nd semester. It's an insult to the education system. If you're good enough to go pro out of high school you should be allowed to. You are in baseball. You are in Golf. You are in Tennis. I guess the difference is the participants in those sports typically aren't inner city kids so people don't get upset....but give a young man from the hood with tattoo's or whatever a few million bucks a year and it just ain't right. Sheesh.
 
What "hoops" do you have to jump thru to become a Doctor, Architect, Dentist or whatever? If you pass the courses and exams you are in.
Why make a hoops prodigy go waste a year in college? Please don't tell me it's for them to mature a year or for them to get an "education" for a year. It's a joke. They can take 12 hours of crap first semester and don't even have to set a foot in the classroom the 2nd semester. It's an insult to the education system. If you're good enough to go pro out of high school you should be allowed to. You are in baseball. You are in Golf. You are in Tennis. I guess the difference is the participants in those sports typically aren't inner city kids so people don't get upset....but give a young man from the hood with tattoo's or whatever a few million bucks a year and it just ain't right. Sheesh.


Sorry, I just found it ironic that your rank on here is "Sweet 16."
 
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