Baylor/OU

[sybarite]

I've been trying to get some sort of picture as to where we are as a team right now. Looking at the games down the stretch, as well as at three critical players who will largely determine our success, over the past eight games, there are some indicators.

Scoring average:
Gioya 11.75
Maddie 9.00
Peyton 8.63

There isn't a lot of difference, but we need a lot more from Peyton. The other factors tell a huge story.

Rebounds
Maddie 6.38
Gioya 3.00
Peyton 2.63
I think Maddie may be the team's leading rebounder during that time.

Assists/turnovers
Maddie 22/12
Gioya 12/13
Peyton 10/13
I think Maddie also leads the team in Assists

Blocks
Maddie 6
Gioya 1
Peyton 0

Steals
Maddie 19
Peyton 8
Gioya 6
Maddie leads the team in steals over this time frame.

In the intangibles, Peyton has been solid in the past. This slump is affecting her overall game dramatically.

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

Yeah you gave the game to us. I guess we helped you out by missing 15 FTs too! The game was very sloppy by both teams. Wish we could play a solid game from start to finish without making so many mistakes and missing easy shots. Glad to see AJ take control late when we needed a bucket. Also proud of smothering defense on Little by Prince to completely take her out of the game.

Yeah. if we had some decent refs "AJ" would of got called for offensive fouls on those last two plays too. Maddie was in her pocket ready to swat it and she bumped into her w her shoulder to get separation- twice in a row...

And don't come on here like u got excuses. We threw the ball to a 6th player standing out of bounds 8 times- and missed 19. NINETEEN layups. You should of gotten beat.

 

[got mulk??]

If you wanna split hairs then both Williams and Pierre-Louis would foul nearly everytime they get the ball under the bucket and use their elbow to push around our bigs ribs in order to get position and shoot. That is an offensive foul that doesn't get called simply cuz our players don't flop. Nearly everytime down the court some OU player is on the floor trying to draw a foul. Don't worry you'll have another chance to beat us in the conference tourney championship game, if you make it that far.

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

If you wanna split hairs then both Williams and Pierre-Louis would foul nearly everytime they get the ball under the bucket and use their elbow to push around our bigs ribs in order to get position and shoot. That is an offensive foul that doesn't get called simply cuz our players don't flop. Nearly everytime down the court some OU player is on the floor trying to draw a foul. Don't worry you'll have another chance to beat us in the conference tourney championship game, if you make it that far.

ha! are you referring to our players trying to turn the corner in the post? I'm assuming that you are... Pinning someone with your elbows in combination with your footwork is how you turn the corner in the post smart guy. If they went straight to your chest with an elbow like jones did with her shoulder to our player- then that is a foul. But thats not what they are doing. U better hope our shooting doesn't wake up soon cause we will be getting another crack at you guys if it does. And we'll be taking your number 1 seed from you- along with a trophy home next time too.

bout lost to a team that missed 19 layups and your getting on here talking trash? Thats hysterical. Go home

 

[got mulk??]

You're not allowed to hook the defender and displace them especially when lowering your shoulder. Also, how could Jones have pushed off on Maddie's chest when she clearly blew right past her and Maddie came from behind attempting to make a block? Go back and watch the tape, genius.

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

You're not allowed to hook the defender and displace them especially when lowering your shoulder. Also, how could Jones have pushed off on Maddie's chest when she clearly blew right past her and Maddie came from behind attempting to make a block? Go back and watch the tape, genius.

HA! blew by her!!????? Will someone else please validate this play? You can see it on replays all over our site. The first Maddie is in to her chest, perfect position. the second Maddie was on her hip riding her away from the basket- Great position both times, had her cut off from getting to the cup- Then jones dropper her shoulder into her to create space. Someone watch it. Thats a foul.

And what you talking about, displacing!? ha. They are turning the corner. There isn't a thing they do that Baylor posts don't do- actually thats kinda funny cause in our replay u can see a Baylor player do that exact move at about the 2 minute mark. lol And the Texas posts do it. And the Osu posts do it. And our men's players do it. And the Oklahoma City Thunder do it. That is what you are taught, that is the move- You just summed up everything you know about basketball right there--- that is nothing.

Its funny- Lobo said before the game Baylor is a team that could give Uconn a run for their money- then you almost lost to a team that is stuck in limbo and missed 19 layups. HA.embarrassing. Geno probably had a good laugh after that one. Carry on tho got Mulk, do your thing- talking trash on other peoples board (so worthless ha). I'll be sure to remember ya when our shooting comes around.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Hooking is a foul. Our post players are guilty sometimes as are other post players. Depending on where the baseline official is standing, players may get away with it occasionally but it's still not a legal move.

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

Hooking is a foul. Our post players are guilty sometimes as are other post players. Depending on where the baseline official is standing, players may get away with it occasionally but it's still not a legal move.

I am well aware that hooking is a foul. Do you know what hook is? Because there is a huge difference between Hooking, and what were doing. And compared to what Baylor is doing as well. Or anyone else for that matter

 

[SoonerNorm]

I am well aware that hooking is a foul. Do you know what hook is? Because there is a huge difference between Hooking, and what were doing. And compared to what Baylor is doing as well. Or anyone else for that matter

You said "Pinning someone with your elbows in combination with your footwork is how you turn the corner in the post smart guy."

How is pinning and hooking different?

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

You said "Pinning someone with your elbows in combination with your footwork is how you turn the corner in the post smart guy."

How is pinning and hooking different?

K. first of all- I've never seen a hook called in college basketball, ever. Ive seen a lot of charging calls, I've never seen a hook.

Second of all, I can't really describe it better than a pin- maybe a seal? or a clear? Do those descriptions help you? The difference between a hook, is you hook COMPLETEY around a player, while a pin is a seal while very close to being around the player, in combination w moving your feet to get there. We don't do anything that would warrant a hook call.

Third of all, so we agree that ether way, whatever you saw, both posts were using the same moves in the same way to score the basketball, right? Then why are u even arguing w/ me if what you saw, and whatever I saw was the same thing? It doesn't matter if you saw a hook, or I saw a great move- the way I saw it is right- but that doesn't matter because If both teams were doing it than the argument by go mulk that they we were getting away with something that we weren't is completely void- and that is what this entire argument is about.

Now- back to my original point. Those last two plays by Jones when the game was on the line were offensive fouls. A really good ref would of called them- especially when it happened back to back. So its hard for me to listen to Baylor fans saying that Jones had this great game down the stretch when all she did was drop her shoulder into our player to get a wide open shot. That is my point.

Now Norm, I realize its hard for you to watch us miss 19 layups, shoot 35% from the field and still have a chance to win the game against Baylor. For the record, That is the second time we really had a chance to beat them in the fourth this season, and we haven't shot well at all this the entire season. I know thats hard, because even you Norm. Even you have to admit that it takes a really talented to team to shoot 35% against Baylor and still have a chance to win. I mean, that is if Baylor is a good team and all like you continually point out to us, then they should beat us by 30. And they are a really good team, so my next point is Can you even imagine how crazy that is?? They have every recruit in the world, they have lost 1 game- Pregame they were talking about how they could beat UCONN and we shot 35% and almost pulled it out, who else could do that?? Your beloved Texas couldn't, I'll tell you that. This is hard for you because now everything that you have been saying is just really not true. SC has lost it. We have good players who aren't better than North Texas players. We can't compete with Baylor. We can't compete with Texas. We'll never get anywhere if things keep going this way. Ect. ect. ect. Were playing awful and competing with these teams. And once these baskets start falling your arguments are gonna look even more worthless.

 

[SoonerNorm]

K. first of all- I've never seen a hook called in college basketball, ever. Ive seen a lot of charging calls, I've never seen a hook.

Second of all, I can't really describe it better than a pin- maybe a seal? or a clear? Do those descriptions help you? The difference between a hook, is you hook COMPLETEY around a player, while a pin is a seal while very close to being around the player, in combination w moving your feet to get there. We don't do anything that would warrant a hook call.

Third of all, so we agree that ether way, whatever you saw, both posts were using the same moves in the same way to score the basketball, right? Then why are u even arguing w/ me if what you saw, and whatever I saw was the same thing? It doesn't matter if you saw a hook, or I saw a great move- the way I saw it is right- but that doesn't matter because If both teams were doing it than the argument by go mulk that they we were getting away with something that we weren't is completely void- and that is what this entire argument is about.

Now- back to my original point. Those last two plays by Jones when the game was on the line were offensive fouls. A really good ref would of called them- especially when it happened back to back. So its hard for me to listen to Baylor fans saying that Jones had this great game down the stretch when all she did was drop her shoulder into our player to get a wide open shot. That is my point.

Now Norm, I realize its hard for you to watch us miss 19 layups, shoot 35% from the field and still have a chance to win the game against Baylor. For the record, That is the second time we really had a chance to beat them in the fourth this season, and we haven't shot well at all this the entire season. I know thats hard, because even you Norm. Even you have to admit that it takes a really talented to team to shoot 35% against Baylor and still have a chance to win. I mean, that is if Baylor is a good team and all like you continually point out to us, then they should beat us by 30. And they are a really good team, so my next point is Can you even imagine how crazy that is?? They have every recruit in the world, they have lost 1 game- Pregame they were talking about how they could beat UCONN and we shot 35% and almost pulled it out, who else could do that?? Your beloved Texas couldn't, I'll tell you that. This is hard for you because now everything that you have been saying is just really not true. SC has lost it. We have good players who aren't better than North Texas players. We can't compete with Baylor. We can't compete with Texas. We'll never get anywhere if things keep going this way. Ect. ect. ect. Were playing awful and competing with these teams. And once these baskets start falling your arguments are gonna look even more worthless.

Some seem to think we somehow earned a "moral" victory because Baylor didn't beat us badly. I don't believe in moral victories. Either you win or you lose. Whether it is 1 point or 30 points it makes no difference. We didn't win.

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

Some seem to think we somehow earned a "moral" victory because Baylor didn't beat us badly. I don't believe in moral victories. Either you win or you lose. Whether it is 1 point or 30 points it makes no difference. We didn't win.

haha.. If that is your true belief then I don't want to hear another word from you about our staff or our roster after a close game that we win in the end. If you don't believe in moral wins, you can't believe in moral loss, ether. Which you believe in both, you have showed that through the years- score is not the only thing that matters to you. Nor should it, but if your gonna say that then after every single win- I want to hear it doesn't matter if you win by 1 or win by 30 cause we won, if thats what your gonna be about.

 

[SoonerNorm]

haha.. If that is your true belief then I don't want to hear another word from you about our staff or our roster after a close game that we win in the end. If you don't believe in moral wins, you can't believe in moral loss, ether. Which you believe in both, you have showed that through the years- score is not the only thing that matters to you. Nor should it, but if your gonna say that then after every single win- I want to hear it doesn't matter if you win by 1 or win by 30 cause we won, if thats what your gonna be about.

Lol! There have been many times I thought we played bad but if we won I was happy to move on. I don't ever recall celebrating a loss and I don't plan to start anytime soon.

 

[womenssports]

Baylor didn't "win" this game. OU gave it to them on a plate. 9 missed layups in the first half - hit 6 of those and we have a 2 pt lead at the half. Unforced turnovers. Very good rebounding could have been better if we would get a grip on the ball. After the 5 turnovers to start the 2nd half I couldn't watch anymore - laid down on the bed and massaged by forehead with both hands. But I love this team. Would love to see their A game (which they are capable of having) for 4 quarters - OU could play with and beat anyone except UConn. Hopefully we will get to see it just once this season - One Shining Moment.

OU didn't miss those shots on purpose, nor turnover the ball on purpose. Also, would say Baylor had a little to do with those things. AND if OU MADE the baskets and didn't make so many turnovers, then there is no way of knowing how Baylor would have responded. So there is no way of knowing who would have won the game. And I really do not know what we are capable of. If you are saying every player played their best game, we could beat anyone....well, yeah, we might have that one game where that is true, but, of course, if everyone on the other team played their best game, then a lot of teams beat us.