Bedlam

With about a minute left, I thought that we didn't have a player-of-the-game. Several had done some good things, and some bad things. Gabbi kind of took over the last minute when we couldn't seem to make good decisions. Might have been a mistake to foul Gabbi. The way we were turning the ball over, we might have lost it twice in thirty seconds. Bad turnovers late.

I was encouraged that Maddie tried to stay in the game and was walking at the time of the post-game handshakes (slaps). That would suggest a sprain or bruise as opposed to structural damage (he said hopefully).
 
With Maddie on the bench early in the year, we still won games. I think you have "Maddie" in your eyes. We would be a top half competitive team, with other players stepping up.
BUT....we would not be near as good, same as if we lost Peyton.

On OUHOOPS, about an hour ago he said we would not be a top hundred team without Maddie. LOL
 
She needs to do what is best for her..I would tell her not to come back if it was up to me. No need to risk anymore health problems..the team isn't going anywhere

Correct. Her health comes first.
 
On OUHOOPS, about an hour ago he said we would not be a top hundred team without Maddie. LOL

West Virginia in Norman
Texas Tech at Lubbock
Texas in Norman
Kansas State at Manhattan
TCU in Fort Worth
Baylor in Norman

Which of these games do you think we will win without Maddie?
 
West Virginia in Norman
Texas Tech at Lubbock
Texas in Norman
Kansas State at Manhattan
TCU in Fort Worth
Baylor in Norman

Which of these games do you think we will win without Maddie?

West Virginia, Texas Tech, and TCU.
 
I hope we don't find out which games we can win without Maddie, (or Peyton, or ViVi, or Gabbi). But we would compete with or without any player, and no player has been consistent enough this year to be considered indispensable.
I think we might miss ViVi more than any other single player.
 
I hope we don't find out which games we can win without Maddie, (or Peyton, or ViVi, or Gabbi). But we would compete with or without any player, and no player has been consistent enough this year to be considered indispensable.
I think we might miss ViVi more than any other single player.

Very true. We are not a one trick pony.
 
There were several games where she started, and then spent extra time on the bench, I assumed for not being aggressive enough. She played 25 minutes against Oral Roberts, so its not like her playing time was the difference in the game. Playing time vs bench time isn't starting or not starting.
My point is that this is a team game, and even if you lose your sometimes best player and leader, you don't suddenly become chopped meat. We have other players who can lead and win games.

25 mins is a full quarter less than what she is playing right now tho, if not more.

Bottom line- we probably won't be a top 4 seed- so we won't host- which makes every thing that much longer of a shot. I like the optimism, but especially if she's out the rest of the year- It's going to be hard

And if it's an ACL she would be out next year too. Which if she gets another summer to develop while healthy- I think we could win the conference next year if she comes bk. So, it's really not good. Not good at all
 
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I don't think we will go very far without Maddie, Gabbi, or Vivi. At this point, Chelsea can almost replace Peyton and can replace Gioya. It does wipe out depth.

Maddie and Gabbi are our only two stabilizers.
 
Peyton is the one we cannot afford to lose. She is very steady and is the glue that holds the team together. With that being said, lets hope we do not have to play without any of them.
 
Post-game show, only Gabbi and Sherri. I think Sherri said that she hadn't talked to anyone about Maddie yet. She seemed rather glum for just having won a road game.
 
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d1/ncaa-womens-basketball-rpi

Let's see.

#89 Iowa State: want to try them without Maddie?
#97 BYU: won by about six with Maddie
#105 Georgia: think we can beat them?
#111 Vanderbilt: want to try it?
#143 TCU: In Fort Worth. Comfortable with this one?
#148 Oral Roberts: lost to them already.

First, Maddie didn't shoot a lot today. But, she did get eleven. We were bad enough on the boards. Maddie had nine. Next highest was Gabbi with five. Want to fight OSU without Maddie?

You don't have anyone on the bench that can replace the fact that she is our team leader in steals, #2 in scoring, #2 in rebounding, #1 in three-point shooting (if you don't count the few shots that TT and LaNesia have put up. She is also our best ball-handler, unless it is Gabbi. They are the two that you want to have the ball late in the game.

I listed our remaining games. Which do you feel that we can win without Maddie? TCU? Maybe. At Tech---really? At Manhattan? Really? Against WV? Really?

There is a reason that the team called her a coach on the floor, and a reason that Sherri says she is our thermostat.
 
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d1/ncaa-womens-basketball-rpi

Let's see.

#89 Iowa State: want to try them without Maddie?
#97 BYU: won by about six with Maddie
#105 Georgia: think we can beat them?
#111 Vanderbilt: want to try it?
#143 TCU: In Fort Worth. Comfortable with this one?
#148 Oral Roberts: lost to them already.

First, Maddie didn't shoot a lot today. But, she did get eleven. We were bad enough on the boards. Maddie had nine. Next highest was Gabbi with five. Want to fight OSU without Maddie?

You don't have anyone on the bench that can replace the fact that she is our team leader in steals, #2 in scoring, #2 in rebounding, #1 in three-point shooting (if you don't count the few shots that TT and LaNesia have put up. She is also our best ball-handler, unless it is Gabbi. They are the two that you want to have the ball late in the game.

I listed our remaining games. Which do you feel that we can win without Maddie? TCU? Maybe. At Tech---really? At Manhattan? Really? Against WV? Really?

There is a reason that the team called her a coach on the floor, and a reason that Sherri says she is our thermostat.
You are articulate and intelligent, but a better argument doesn't change things. It isn't what one player can do, it is what replacements do, given the chance. I just think its funny that some fans think that one player makes a team (or in this case, unmakes a team).
And yes, we COULD win games the rest of the year without Maddie. Never know what players with more opportunities can accomplish.
 
She walked off so it could be just a bad sprain. But it's pretty over if she goes down


We looked great early- looked like we were really building it finally-then Gabbi got going out of control again.... she doesn't understand the players she takes out of the game when she plays too fast and try's to force a bunch of shots. Vivi didn't have a shot til the second quarter-Maddie didn't take a shot IN the second quarter. And Peyton had to force bad shots just trying to get something going. We know you can score a little Gabbi, that's not the point. The point is for you to get others going so that we can function as a team all game long. We play our best when Gabbi is looking for others, and our scorers are Vivi, Peyton, and Maddie. Contributions in scoring will be needed- Gabbi actually got us going but we don't want her taking 15 shots.. Gabbi is not Plum. That's just what it is. She's improving but reverts to old habits, needs to keep working.

Hopefully Maddie is okay.

I've seen people walk off the court crying, seemingly moving okay, and it still ended up being an ACL or MCL tear. Just saying. :-(
 
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d1/ncaa-womens-basketball-rpi

Let's see.

#89 Iowa State: want to try them without Maddie?
#97 BYU: won by about six with Maddie
#105 Georgia: think we can beat them?
#111 Vanderbilt: want to try it?
#143 TCU: In Fort Worth. Comfortable with this one?
#148 Oral Roberts: lost to them already.

First, Maddie didn't shoot a lot today. But, she did get eleven. We were bad enough on the boards. Maddie had nine. Next highest was Gabbi with five. Want to fight OSU without Maddie?

You don't have anyone on the bench that can replace the fact that she is our team leader in steals, #2 in scoring, #2 in rebounding, #1 in three-point shooting (if you don't count the few shots that TT and LaNesia have put up. She is also our best ball-handler, unless it is Gabbi. They are the two that you want to have the ball late in the game.

I listed our remaining games. Which do you feel that we can win without Maddie? TCU? Maybe. At Tech---really? At Manhattan? Really? Against WV? Really?

There is a reason that the team called her a coach on the floor, and a reason that Sherri says she is our thermostat.

You sure do carry a big torch for Maddie. This team can be good without her, but it will be an adjustment period. I definitely don't think we would be in the bottom half of the conference. If Maddie was consistently good every night, I'd be more concerned. However, her inconsistency is what makes me think we will be okay regardless of what happens with her health.
 
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