Could OU score 51 on OSU in basketball?

[ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms]

I thought Kruger and Ford coached the basketball teams???

 

[brumFTW]

No matter what you think of OSU, you have to admit that it's pretty impressive that they have three QBs that play as well as they do (I have to imagine that one will probably transfer). Randle is also an excellent running back, and has been his entire time at OSU. The weakness for OSU, typically, is depth, and that disadvantage has been diminishing.

All that said, OSU has a tall mountain to climb before they can claim equality with OU.

 

[WaymanFan]

No matter what you think of OSU, you have to admit that it's pretty impressive that they have three QBs that play as well as they do (I have to imagine that one will probably transfer). Randle is also an excellent running back, and has been his entire time at OSU. The weakness for OSU, typically, is depth, and that disadvantage has been diminishing.

All that said, OSU has a tall mountain to climb before they can claim equality with OU.

Excellent post. OSU certainly has come a long way. I stopped taking a win for granted when they beat us 5 out of 8 from 1995 - 2002. During our 8 game win streak which followed, all of the games in Norman were pretty much a blowout and all of the games in Stillwater were highly competitive. Last year, they crushed us in Stillwater and this year we needed OT at home to beat them. No question that the gap has narrowed.

No, they aren't our equal, but anyone who thinks we're going to win 8 in a row again just isn't paying attention. This is a very competitve, well-coached team. I'm not the only OU fan who wouldn't cry if Tennessee or Arkansas lured Mike Gundy away from Stillwater (highly unlikely, but not impossible).

 

[skyvue]

We'll see what happens next year in Stillwater.

There's always next year. But that's some 350+ days away.

For now, the aggies are a four-loss team getting props for playing their hated rivals -- their only rivals -- close. Congrats on that.

 

[KBaden145]

No matter what you think of OSU, you have to admit that it's pretty impressive that they have three QBs that play as well as they do (I have to imagine that one will probably transfer). Randle is also an excellent running back, and has been his entire time at OSU. The weakness for OSU, typically, is depth, and that disadvantage has been diminishing.

All that said, OSU has a tall mountain to climb before they can claim equality with OU.

It isn't the QBs as much as it is the system. Having success with 3 completely different QBs is the definition of a 'system' QB. Chelf and Walsh will never sniff the NFL, Lunt might, but all 3 can be very good college QBs in that scheme. Here's hoping Monken gets a HC job and takes their entire offensive staff with him.

 

[stoops4pres]

I think Gundy has become a good coach. They alway scrapped hard with players that OU didn't recruit. Since Gundy has come on board they are getting much better prospects. They will be tough moving forward.

Gundy is fantastic when it comes to evaluating and developing offensive talent.

The fact that they are a top 5 national offense when they not only replaced a 1st round QB and WR, but also have been playing musical chairs at quarterback, is very impressive.

We need better linemen on both sides of the ball. I know that the offensive line has been damaged by injuries and even the ones on the field have probably been playing hurt. But this is probably the weakest front four in the Stoops era and we don't have that dominant linebacker we usually have. Maybe we are recruiting too many skill players at the expense of the big uglies.

I'm willing to give the OL unit somewhat of a pass due to the number of injuries. As far as the DL is concerned, this is undoubtedly the worst unit since 2000. They've played hard, so I appreciate their effort, but they simply aren't close to matching the production we have grown accustomed to watching throughout the Stoops era. And you're right, it doesn't help when OU is void of game-changing linebackers.

 

[stoops4pres]

Nope.

On another board I showed that the number of Oline, Dline, and I believe LB's on our roster is on par with other teams in the conference.

We just have to either recruit better ones, or coach them up better. But it doesn't appear, to me anyways, to be a case of us not recruiting "enough".

Yeah, it doesn't help when guys like McFarland and Washington haven't lived up to their billing.

Up until this season, Stoops & Co. have had a very good track record of evaluating and developing the DL unit. Therefore, I'm hoping this year (and presumably the next, since I am not expecting much from this unit again in 2013) is simply an outlier, and OU will go back to producing stout defensive linemen like we've seen the coaching staff do for the past decade.

 

[brumFTW]

Yeah, it doesn't help when guys like McFarland and Washington haven't lived up to their billing.

Up until this season, Stoops & Co. have had a very good track record of evaluating and developing the DL unit. Therefore, I'm hoping this year (and presumably the next, since I am not expecting much from this unit again in 2013) is simply an outlier, and OU will go back to producing stout defensive linemen like we've seen the coaching staff do for the past decade.

We only return Ndulue (who is only a sophmore) from our DL starters. So, it will be a totally different unit next season.

 

[BoulderSooner]

There's always next year. But that's some 350+ days away.

For now, the aggies are a four-loss team getting props for playing their hated rivals -- their only rivals -- close. Congrats on that.

this ... and as much as they say we almost won ..... well they also almost lost to kansas ... and if you lose at baylor you are a 5 loss team .. congrats .. stoops would get killed for losing 5 games in a season ... hell he has been blasted for losing 2 games this year

 

[stoops4pres]

We only return Ndulue (who is only a sophmore) from our DL starters. So, it will be a totally different unit next season.

I'm aware of that. Which means a lot of inexperience coming from a unit that is seemingly not very talented (relative to Stoops' standards).

I'm not optimistic about our DL next year, but would love it if they proved me wrong.

 

[bocabull]

this ... and as much as they say we almost won ..... well they also almost lost to kansas ... and if you lose at baylor you are a 5 loss team .. congrats .. stoops would get killed for losing 5 games in a season ... hell he has been blasted for losing 2 games this year

Stoops is deservedly criticized for a 10+ year track record of losing to inferior teams 1/2 times per season and other than Texas losing the vast majority of his games vs legitimate top 15 teams.

For the record, teams like Texas Tech, Kansas State, etc are never really top 15 teams which is proven every bowl season. You can't be a legit top 15 team without consistently recruiting top 25 talent.

OU is an elite program with a mediocre coach playing in a very mediocre conference.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

I give it up to Gundy.

oSu certainly isn't OU, but he is doing about as good a job at oSu as you could expect and is coming off of a B12 Championship season.

As far as OU goes, we are good but something is missing that is keeping us from being great. Seems like cruise control or something, but whatever, win next week and probably in a BCS game.

 

[DenverSooner]

I give it up to Gundy.

oSu certainly isn't OU, but he is doing about as good a job at oSu as you could expect and is coming off of a B12 Championship season.

As far as OU goes, we are good but something is missing that is keeping us from being great. Seems like cruise control or something, but whatever, win next week and probably in a BCS game.

If you think about Gundy he has been key to the three best eras in OSU football (to my knowledge - I don't know if OSU had some good times prior to Gundy being quarterback). In the mid to late 80s he was the quarterback on some good OSU teams. He was Miles' offensive coordinator on some solid OSU teams. He then took over and has taken OSU to its best season ever. It took him a few years after becoming OSU's head coach but he has done a really good job.

 

[ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms]

If you think about Gundy he has been key to the three best eras in OSU football (to my knowledge - I don't know if OSU had some good times prior to Gundy being quarterback). In the mid to late 80s he was the quarterback on some good OSU teams. He was Miles' offensive coordinator on some solid OSU teams. He then took over and has taken OSU to its best season ever. It took him a few years after becoming OSU's head coach but he has done a really good job.

and he did the first one despite being coached by Pat Jones!:facepalm

 

[CobraKai]

Surely you're joking. Randle is the best back in the Big 12.

Chelf vs first year starter Bell at home next year? I like our chances

Gundy is a better coach then sooners give him credit for. He almost beat you guys in Norman with his 3rd string QB making his first career road start

I disagree that Chelf is the 3rd string QB when the other 2 are cleared to play. I do agree with everything else. Gundy is a very good coach who has assembled a very good team and staff.

 

[bocabull]

Okie A&M has won 18 of their 107 games vs big brother for an alltime winning percentage of 16.8%. Gundy has won 1 of his 8 games or 12.5%.

Same old same ole. He's par for the course. The conference is just weaker.

 

[brumFTW]

Stoops is deservedly criticized for a 10+ year track record of losing to inferior teams 1/2 times per season and other than Texas losing the vast majority of his games vs legitimate top 15 teams.

For the record, teams like Texas Tech, Kansas State, etc are never really top 15 teams which is proven every bowl season. You can't be a legit top 15 team without consistently recruiting top 25 talent.

OU is an elite program with a mediocre coach playing in a very mediocre conference.

148-36, 1 national championship, and 7 Big XII championships (8 if the whorns can do us a favor); how very mediocre. :facepalm

 

[oSuJeff97]

148-36, 1 national championship, and 7 Big XII championships (8 if the whorns can do us a favor); how very mediocre. :facepalm

Dude... It's boca.

You have to imagine Ralph Wiggum is typing his posts and they'll make more sense.