GAME 10 - OKLAHOMA (6-3) vs Oklahoma St (9-0) in OKC 12:00pm CST on FOX

[Boom Soon]

The guy that has surprised me the most --- Pack. I guess I was the only person that didn't know he was as good as he is. He is a really good player. Elite shooter. Plays smart. works hard on defense and doesn't turn the ball over much. Super impressed with him. I am sure I watched him at K State, but just don't remember him. Didn't watch him at Miami. I don't know what his pro potential is due to his height, but he is one hell of a college player.

Helps when you’ve been in college eight years haha

 

[pnkranger]

Just finished the game, great to pull out the win. Almost thought start of the 2nd we would lose it. Nice to have Jones 3 and D-ing it up well.


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Correct, 120.3 is the highest in Moser's era in AdjO. Let's see how high that number stays in SEC play. Easily the best starting guards we have had in awhile. If THAT Xavier Brown shows up, we should be solid running into conference play.

We need to keep improving defensively. Wake Forest and OSU were huge improvements on that side of the ball, while ASU was a huge letdown. Can we get more consistent defensively?

I also think we'll see a continued improvement in 3 point %: While Pack is above his average, Brown, Jones, and Forsythe are all below their career averages from 3 by more than a couple of % points. Tae Davis has reverted to freshman year numbers (20% below last year's numbers), and you have to think he'll either shoot less or start making some shots as the year goes along. Also shooting too many threes. We have done great running the short pick and roll with both Wague and Davis and also getting into the lane with Pack and Brown. Our percentage should jump if we get that 3PA% down.

All in all, though, it's not going to matter if we continue the Jeckyll and Hyde defense night to night, but fun to think about.

 

[stormspencer]

yall need to chill

I like Wague, but I stand by my statement, he played like a dumbass at times in this game.....and it could've cost us dearly. Even he would probably admit that.

And if that offends your delicate sensibilities....well, sorry not sorry.

 

[TINY]

Big win against the pokes. Sweet to give them their first loss.

schedule has been harder than anticipated. Hated to lose to another Hurley, but they were fortunate catching ou at the end of a brutal 8-day roadie against 3 p5 teams across 3 time zones (2-1 over that stretch).

 

[WichitaSooner]

Big win against the pokes. Sweet to give them their first loss.

schedule has been harder than anticipated. Hated to lose to another Hurley, but they were fortunate catching ou at the end of a brutal 8-day roadie against 3 p5 teams across 3 time zones (2-1 over that stretch).

I respect you man but to say playing 3 games in 9 days is brutal is crazy, especially when only one game was against an above average team. An NBA team would call that a very light stretch of the schedule.

As for the schedule as a whole, Marquette is much worse than expected. Nebraska is much better. We have played two ranked teams and lost to both. Wake and OSU are wild cards. Won’t surprise me if they have good conference seasons but also wouldn’t surprise me if they finish under .500. As a veteran team that came into the year with tourney aspirations, playing two ranked teams isn’t particularly challenging. Last year we won three noncon games against teams that made the tourney, and two of them were high seeds. This season, we may not have any wins over the field unless Wake and/or OSU put together good seasons. That’s why I don’t think this team gets any better than a C for the noncon portion of the season. Last year, we were a solid A and that gave us a huge buffer that allowed us to get in despite going 6-12 in the SEC. No buffer this season, especially considering how poorly the conference did as a whole in the noncon.

 

[pnkranger]

Everything is in front of us. If we had beat Nebraska, we would be 4-2 against P5 teams on the road or at neutral sites in noncon.

3-3 is fine because we beat the other bubble teams…

 

[Boom Soon]

3-3 is fine because we beat the other bubble teams…

What bubble teams?

 

[WichitaSooner]

Everything is in front of us. If we had beat Nebraska, we would be 4-2 against P5 teams on the road or at neutral sites in noncon.

3-3 is fine because we beat the other bubble teams…

It doesn’t matter if you beat “P5 (P4) teams.” It matters how good the teams are.

 

[WaymanFan]

Prior to players being paid, the comments about Wague would have been deleted and the poster(s) would be given stern warnings about defamatory statements toward any player on the team. I don't like to hear anyone on the team being called "a loser". It reflects more on the poster than the player and is beyond disrespectful. That said, it is a different world when players are being financially compensated so the posting rules are different. I will ask Boulder how he wants this handled going forward, but I wish some of you would use a more appropriate choice of words.

 

[pnkranger]

It doesn’t matter if you beat “P5 (P4) teams.” It matters how good the teams are.

You don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun the other teams. OSU and Wake will be on the bubble with us -- or in the field. Beating those two teams was important. Would I prefer to be 5-1 in that stretch, sure? But we played 6 P5 games away from Lloyd Noble and went 3-3 beating two teams we'll be fighting for seeds later in the year. Not best case scenario, but certainly not worst.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Prior to players being paid, the comments about Wague would have been deleted and the poster(s) would be given stern warnings about defamatory statements toward any player on the team. I don't like to hear anyone on the team being called "a loser". It reflects more on the poster than the player and is beyond disrespectful. That said, it is a different world when players are being financially compensated so the posting rules are different. I will ask Boulder how he wants this handled going forward, but I wish some of you would use a more appropriate choice of words.

I think it has more to do with jamming people in their throats.. and you don't know what defamatory means

 

[SunshinePumper]

Prior to players being paid, the comments about Wague would have been deleted and the poster(s) would be given stern warnings about defamatory statements toward any player on the team. I don't like to hear anyone on the team being called "a loser". It reflects more on the poster than the player and is beyond disrespectful. That said, it is a different world when players are being financially compensated so the posting rules are different. I will ask Boulder how he wants this handled going forward, but I wish some of you would use a more appropriate choice of words.

Good thing you don't monitor the football board on gamedays... I would say it is much worse than what an OU basketball player would endure. Let's hope Wague cleans up the intentional flagrant fouls and that shouldn't be an issue with how hard he does actually play and play defense.

Let's win by 40+ tonight and catch a groove before the end of the calendar year - SEC schedule not nearly as daunting as it was last year.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I like Wague, but I stand by my statement, he played like a dumbass at times in this game.....and it could've cost us dearly. Even he would probably admit that.

And if that offends your delicate sensibilities....well, sorry not sorry.

You called him a dumbass.
You didn't say he was playing like a dumbass. You didn't say that was a dumbass play.
You said he is a dumbass.

Big difference

 

[WichitaSooner]

Prior to players being paid, the comments about Wague would have been deleted and the poster(s) would be given stern warnings about defamatory statements toward any player on the team. I don't like to hear anyone on the team being called "a loser". It reflects more on the poster than the player and is beyond disrespectful. That said, it is a different world when players are being financially compensated so the posting rules are different. I will ask Boulder how he wants this handled going forward, but I wish some of you would use a more appropriate choice of words.

If you’re going to check in about comments people make criticizing a player for blatantly dirty and cheap plays, maybe also check in on comments that are blatantly homophobic and misogynistic. The former seem to be completely appropriate for a message board while the latter are so clearly out of bounds that it shouldn’t even need to be said.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Prior to players being paid, the comments about Wague would have been deleted and the poster(s) would be given stern warnings about defamatory statements toward any player on the team. I don't like to hear anyone on the team being called "a loser". It reflects more on the poster than the player and is beyond disrespectful. That said, it is a different world when players are being financially compensated so the posting rules are different. I will ask Boulder how he wants this handled going forward, but I wish some of you would use a more appropriate choice of words.

I largely agree with this POV them being paid .. does matter ... I do thing loser is not a good thing to call any player but i don't think it is "over the line" especially in game threads .. (which are an animal unto themselves) .. at the end of the day ..i trust your wise judgement..

 

[WaymanFan]

I largely agree with this POV them being paid .. does matter ... I do thing loser is not a good thing to call any player but i don't think it is "over the line" especially in game threads .. (which are an animal unto themselves) .. at the end of the day ..i trust your wise judgement..

I did not know if it was considered over the line hence I left it alone. Pre-NIL, those comments were simply way off base and deleted without a second thought. Of course, as a Mod, I always knew when players family members were posting (even Jeff Capel's MOM back in the day) so not making inflammatory remarks about players was imperative. But there is a huge line in the sand when it comes to professional athletes vs amateur athletes in what is acceptable to post. College fan bases used to get slammed when they booed their school loudly for poor performance. That is obviously no longer the case.

 

[skyvue]

Fans feeling justified in using harsher language when posting about players who get paid is one of a long list of reasons I hated to see the rise of pay for play--I knew it would happen--and one of a long list of reasons why I have, for more than 50 years, strongly preferred collegiate athletics to pro sports. The pro and college cultures were, not so long ago, drastically different but no longer.

I would never boo a player on the team I cheered for. Never.