Cy Woods

[Mac]

As have many on this board who have been more than weary of your nonsense for over eight years. If it doesn't agree with you then you don't want to here it. The presentation of different ideas and perspective and the discussion therein should always be welcomed regardless how weary it makes any of us feel. The discussion of differing opinions is the foundation of a website.

The solution to your problem is to not expose yourself to that which you consider nonsense. Perhaps start your own board, control access and live in bliss. Otherwise join in the discussion and counter others perspectives with your own. But remember none of our opinions on this board amount to a hill of beans in the overall scheme of things.

But at some point facts or proof is needed. I've done my share of negative posting about Sherri and Lydnesy Coleman, and I still think the staff is to old to relate to some of the new kids now, but we have a person who has come here and had nothing but negativity towards Mulkey, we have family's of players who post here, my inbox went crazy behind what i said about Jade Williams...

At this point I expect Nancy to be nothing more then a cancer while shes at OU, calling all the shots I.E shes going to run the program who can be recruited and who can't ... And if Sherri ask her to get 10rpg then shes going to transfer... Mulkey and Cate Reese must be what I call fake, I saw them sitting side by side during an interview and both girls were all smiles... to me it looked like they got along just fine, but if you let someone else tell its about to be a girl fight!

 

[SoonerSpock]

Do you ever post except to attack me? It is entertaining, and I am glad that I haunt you so.

I just call a spade a spade. The truth doesn't haunt, fabrications and attacks exasperate and getting a little of your own medicine is earned. I apologize for the itch.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Skilledserv is one of only a handful on this board who knows recruiting. It is so hard to gather honest evaluations on high school kids. We know that skilled believes Nancy is a good player and he has her ranked high. He has pointed out areas where she needs to improve (I have too although I don't know 1/100th of what skilled knows). I think everyone should be willing to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly of players OU are interested in, or hopefully will get interested in, because no player is perfect. They all have flaws. We want our players/recruits to improve. The truth is, some do and some don't. But, I would much rather hear knowledgeable and honest opinions rather than some comments that only tell us how wonderful they are!

I have previously said, I greatly appreciate those who know basketball and can evaluate talent and are willing to share their expertise with us. It has been truly refreshing to have those guys give us information we would get from NO ONE else. If someone doesn't want to read what skilled and others have to say, the ignore button works well.

Edit to say: Mac, this isn't in response to your post specifically but rather just in defense of all who give honest recruiting opinions and know what they're talking about.

 

[sybarite]

http://ouhoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36139

Go back to the first posts made on this board and see if there is any expertise or objectivity.

 

[mikeareese]

I watched the Washington game. Plum had quite a few lay-ups. Mulkey if anything would have rejected the shots or altered them. Her offense game is getting better. I know Cates sister Ali was excited to be on the documentary with Mulkey. They follow each other on twitter. I am sure skilledserv knows a lot about evaluations. I just ? that he knows where a recruit will go. Vivian Grays dad doesn't have a lot of UT photos on his site or her mother Lisa. Then her sister went to Ft Lewis College. If I was Aston. I wouldn't give a her a ship. I would just let the dad pay. UT only has 3 spots for 2017. I am sure D Richards will be one. Maybe, I need to start a campaign to hashtag some athletes like they do in football.

 

[SoonerNorm]

I watched the Washington game. Plum had quite a few lay-ups. Mulkey if anything would have rejected the shots or altered them. Her offense game is getting better. I know Cates sister Ali was excited to be on the documentary with Mulkey. They follow each other on twitter. I am sure skilledserv knows a lot about evaluations. I just ? that he knows where a recruit will go. Vivian Grays dad doesn't have a lot of UT photos on his site or her mother Lisa. Then her sister went to Ft Lewis College. If I was Aston. I wouldn't give a her a ship. I would just let the dad pay. UT only has 3 spots for 2017. I am sure D Richards will be one. Maybe, I need to start a campaign to hashtag some athletes like they do in football.

I figured that Cate and Ali were related but I didn't know for sure they are sisters. Glad you mentioned that.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Skilledserv is one of only a handful on this board who knows recruiting. It is so hard to gather honest evaluations on high school kids. We know that skilled believes Nancy is a good player and he has her ranked high. He has pointed out areas where she needs to improve (I have too although I don't know 1/100th of what skilled knows). I think everyone should be willing to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly of players OU are interested in, or hopefully will get interested in, because no player is perfect. They all have flaws. We want our players/recruits to improve. The truth is, some do and some don't. But, I would much rather hear knowledgeable and honest opinions rather than some comments that only tell us how wonderful they are!

I have previously said, I greatly appreciate those who know basketball and can evaluate talent and are willing to share their expertise with us. It has been truly refreshing to have those guys give us information we would get from NO ONE else. If someone doesn't want to read what skilled and others have to say, the ignore button works well.

Edit to say: Mac, this isn't in response to your post specifically but rather just in defense of all who give honest recruiting opinions and know what they're talking about.

Norm,

You have to remember this is an Internet Forum. You have no idea who everyone is. Are they all who they claim to be? Do they know as much as they claim to know? Do they have the connections they clam to have? The truth is you just never know.

Readers & posters (and that includes even you) do not know how much a given person knows about Women's Basketball. There is simply no way to be certain about backgrounds. I can assure you that there are people on here who know more about women's basketball than you think.

I do not say that to be unkind, just to point out how hard it is to know exactly who is who they claim to be - and who has what agenda. You cannot believe everything you read on the internet.

To act positive that someone "knows 100 times as much about WBB as you do" makes no sense. Maybe you don't know much about WBB and he does. I doubt that your knowledge is that limited - but you are free to evaluate yourself. But I can absolutely guarantee you he doesn't know 100 times more about WBB than I do.

Syb has pointed out some facts about posts that never should have been posted here - and that are inherently inconsistent. We all need to stop and think about things we read out here.

We have even had people state that they are absolutely positive that they know more about the names of women on the team than people who interact with those players on a regular basis. Why would anyone take such a position? Why not just say "I think it should be 'so and so but it is hard to be positive.'

I end by repeating this: You cannot believe everything you read on the internet.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Norm,

You have to remember this is an Internet Forum. You have no idea who everyone is. Are they all who they claim to be? Do they know as much as they claim to know? Do they have the connections they clam to have? The truth is you just never know.

Readers & posters (and that includes even you) do not know how much a given person knows about Women's Basketball. There is simply no way to be certain about backgrounds. I can assure you that there are people on here who know more about women's basketball than you think.

I do not say that to be unkind, just to point out how hard it is to know exactly who is who they claim to be - and who has what agenda. You cannot believe everything you read on the internet.

To act positive that someone "knows 100 times as much about WBB as you do" makes no sense. Maybe you don't know much about WBB and he does. I doubt that your knowledge is that limited - but you are free to evaluate yourself. But I can absolutely guarantee you he doesn't know 100 times more about WBB than I do.

Syb has pointed out some facts about posts that never should have been posted here - and that are inherently inconsistent. We all need to stop and think about things we read out here.

We have even had people state that they are absolutely positive that they know more about the names of women on the team than people who interact with those players on a regular basis. Why would anyone take such a position? Why not just say "I think it should be 'so and so but it is hard to be positive.'

I end by repeating this: You cannot believe everything you read on the internet.

The people I respect on this board regarding recruiting agree on aspects of various recruits that the rest of us could not possibly know. The only way they would be able to agree is if they have seen and heard the same things. Plus, they not only watch games, they also watch practices. They also talk to recruits, parents, and coaches. You may not agree with them and that's fine. But, ask yourself if you would have spent as much time watching the players in the gym as those guys would you be more knowledgeable. I can assure you there are not more than 4 or 5 on this board who have firsthand information on recruits in Oklahoma and Texas. Everyone else, including me, can offer opinions but only those guys truly know what they're talking about. You absolutely cannot know as much as they do by watching a game or two online.

 

[skilledserv]

But at some point facts or proof is needed. I've done my share of negative posting about Sherri and Lydnesy Coleman, and I still think the staff is to old to relate to some of the new kids now, but we have a person who has come here and had nothing but negativity towards Mulkey, we have family's of players who post here, my inbox went crazy behind what i said about Jade Williams...

At this point I expect Nancy to be nothing more then a cancer while shes at OU, calling all the shots I.E shes going to run the program who can be recruited and who can't ... And if Sherri ask her to get 10rpg then shes going to transfer... Mulkey and Cate Reese must be what I call fake, I saw them sitting side by side during an interview and both girls were all smiles... to me it looked like they got along just fine, but if you let someone else tell its about to be a girl fight!

It was a Cy woods interview....there are people at your job I'm sure You don't like but at work you have to smile.

 

[skilledserv]

I watched the Washington game. Plum had quite a few lay-ups. Mulkey if anything would have rejected the shots or altered them. Her offense game is getting better. I know Cates sister Ali was excited to be on the documentary with Mulkey. They follow each other on twitter. I am sure skilledserv knows a lot about evaluations. I just ? that he knows where a recruit will go. Vivian Grays dad doesn't have a lot of UT photos on his site or her mother Lisa. Then her sister went to Ft Lewis College. If I was Aston. I wouldn't give a her a ship. I would just let the dad pay. UT only has 3 spots for 2017. I am sure D Richards will be one. Maybe, I need to start a campaign to hashtag some athletes like they do in football.

You are right....can't ever be for sure where a recruit will go. I can only go by what is told from people who may know a little more than me, but you are right will never know until the signing day.....just like the Ogumike's did Baylor

 

[sybarite]

It was a Cy woods interview....there are people at your job I'm sure You don't like but at work you have to smile.

I can't remember. Have you made even one criticism of Baylor, Kim Mulkey, Texas, or Karen Aston or of any player that they signed or may have recruited? Wouldn't you be more comfortable on one of their boards where people agree with you?

 

[skilledserv]

http://ouhoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36139

Go back to the first posts made on this board and see if there is any expertise or objectivity.

I really have no problem if you ignore my post or block me. I will be just fine either way.

It was my expertise when i stated that, it was from my time observing her over the past four years. If you want to call it my opinion from my observations that's fine and it is no different than someone else's opinion that you may agree with. Just say you do not want anyone to have there own opinion and i will respect you more.

 

[sybarite]

You didn't answer my question.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

It's Cate Reese team hands down. The reason it's not working this year is because there leading scorer and best player graduated plus Perez was dang near the second best player and she is Tulsa

Thank goodness the Tulsa coaches didn't have you on their bench tonight. I'm sure she would have scored 30 or 40 and grabbed 25 or so rebounds, and I guess blocked 10 or 15 shots. We would have lost by double digits.

But thankfully their coach did not know enough to even put her on the floor.

 

[skilledserv]

Thank goodness the Tulsa coaches didn't have you on their bench tonight. I'm sure she would have scored 30 or 40 and grabbed 25 or so rebounds, and I guess blocked 10 or 15 shots. We would have lost by double digits.

But thankfully their coach did not know enough to even put her on the floor.

First things First.....she's coming off an injury that they aren't sure she will recover from, the same injury dryer has right now.

Next thing is you have to understand the game....it starts at the one. She is a extended version of the coach, which is what Cy woods do not have right now. Woods best ball handler right now is Reese with Williams being next. They lost there 2 best ball handlers and there 2 best scorers which is causing them to struggle this year. Sorry that you did not understand what i was saying before and hope this helps clear things up for you

 

[skilledserv]

You didn't answer my question.

That was not a question... If it was, I'm not seeing it. I offered you a chance to call me to ask me anything or i can give you video of her next game if you like. Just let me know

 

[sybarite]

That was not a question... If it was, I'm not seeing it. I offered you a chance to call me to ask me anything or i can give you video of her next game if you like. Just let me know

I can't remember. Have you made even one criticism of Baylor, Kim Mulkey, Texas, or Karen Aston or of any player that they signed or may have recruited? Wouldn't you be more comfortable on one of their boards where people agree with you?

I asked if you had ever criticized the above.

 

[skilledserv]

I asked if you had ever criticized the above.

I have given my honest opinion on Texas board as well as Baylor.....oh yeah I've been on the boneyard and given my opinion. So to answer your question, yes.

Honestly at the end of the day it's my opinion and they welcome it

 

[sybarite]

I have given my honest opinion on Texas board as well as Baylor.....oh yeah I've been on the boneyard and given my opinion. So to answer your question, yes.

Honestly at the end of the day it's my opinion and they welcome it

Thus far, the only "opinion" that I have seen you give on this board seems to be that Aston can do no wrong, and that every Texas prospect is fantastic. Baylor seems to be about as good. I have seen no negatives towards them.

 

[skilledserv]

Thus far, the only "opinion" that I have seen you give on this board seems to be that Aston can do no wrong, and that every Texas prospect is fantastic. Baylor seems to be about as good. I have seen no negatives towards them.

If you would like to talk about Texas or Baylor we can. Didn't think you wanted to being that it wasn't OU....

I really feel Texas and Baylor are both going crazy with the over recruiting 1 position. Texas has to many guards with no real bigs on the horizon and Baylor with the total opposite by taking in all the post they have. I personally think it will open up more transfers on the girls side.

Texas can't play Joyner at a post and i feel Karen will have to get a little more creative with the offense. Even watching them now they are predictable on the offense side of the ball, this may be why they aren't scoring as much as they should.

Baylor will have a few unhappy kids being that Mulkey will find the kid who plays hard for her and play her 30 minutes a game. She will have a total of 4 high profile post to have come in the last 2 years so someone will not be happy.

The bottom line, both Texas and Baylor needs to make sure they recruit the right way for 2017 or they may take a step back. Would be great if you could make trades in college....lol. Baylor could send Texas a couple of bigs and Baylor could receive a couple of guards. At the end of the day i think Kim is set up to come out on top here, just because the 2017 class has some great guards in the state to where as Karen really has no bigs to choose from in state.

Everyone knows what you are getting with Cox and if you go back to her thread on here, you will see where i compared her to Holmes and spoke of both there weaknesses. Chou i think will be good in college but am not sure she is Mulkey type of player. She needs a lot of work on defense and Mulkey is big on playing hard, so that is a wait and see. At the end of the day both schools are getting 2 McDonald's all Americans but how will they fit