Frank Haith update

[thebigabd]

If I'm Tulsa, my list looks like this:

Head Coaches

Grant McCasland (North Texas)
Nick McDevitt (Middle Tennessee State)
Andy Kennedy (Alabama-Birmingham)
Eric Konkol (Louisiana Tech) - former Tulsa student assistant
Dennis Gates (Cleveland State)
John Groce (Akron)
Darian DeVries (Drake)
Jeff Linder (Wyoming)
Matt McMahon (Murray State)
Dustin Kerns (Appalachian State)
Eric Henderson (South Dakota State)
Chris Jans (New Mexico State)
Todd Golden (San Francisco)
Niko Medved (Colorado State)
Drew Valentine (Loyola-Chicago)
Bob Richey (Furman)
Richie Riley (South Alabama)
Shantay Legans (Portland)
Mark Prosser (Winthrop)
Joe Golding (Texas-El Paso)
Jordan Mincy (Jacksonville)
Dana Ford (Missouri State)


Not at a school right now

Chris Mack (Louisville/Xavier)
Mark Turgeon (Maryland/Xavier/Texas A&M)
Archie Miller (Dayton/Indiana)

Assistants

David Patrick (Oklahoma)
Jerome Tang (Baylor)
Roger Powell Jr (Gonzaga)
Brian Michaelson (Gonzaga)
Alvin Brooks III (Baylor)

.....I need to dive deeper. This was a fast run through.

Mike Anderson &/or Cuonzo Martin aren't candidates thankfully (I say that as a semi-TU fan).

Lots of great coaches on your list... The problem is, TU isn't a step up for a lot of them. Niko Medved, Eric Konkol, Grant McCasland.. Those guys are going to P5 jobs.

Dana Ford makes the most sense for the "up and coming" hire.... Mike Anderson makes the most sense for the flip side of that coin.

As for TU on the whole... I think they made serious mistakes with their conference changes. They say TU was the original Gonzaga, but what Gonzaga didn't do is change leagues several times and get into a total trap league (Missouri Valley to WAC, WAC to CUSA, CUSA to American).... The American is a trap for a school like TU. It's a one bid league that is a lot more competitive than lots of other 1 bid leagues. TU needs to be in a league where they are the favorite most years, like Gonzaga.

TU has football considerations that Gonzaga doesn't have, but either way its a total trap.

There are lots of basketball conferences that have a sensible geographic area for schools the size of TU.

The MAC:
Toledo - Ohio - Buffalo - Akron - Central Mich - Eastern Mich - Western Mich, etc...

West Coast:
Gonzaga - St Marys - Santa Clara - San Francisco - Portland - Pepperdine - Pacific, etc...

Big Sky:
Montana - Idaho - Idaho State - Montana State - Eastern WA, etc...

TU needs to go back to the Missouri Valley or something...... In a perfect world, TU would be better off in a basketball only league again of similar sized schools. Separate football and basketball again.

Conference alignments are really messed up right now, and continue to get worse and more illogical as schools make changes.

TU should play in a league with small private schools in the region, like them. The Missouri Valley fits that bill. Lots of the schools in that league have similar enrollment and characteristics of TU.

 

[StoopsBros]

Lots of great coaches on your list... The problem is, TU isn't a step up for a lot of them. Niko Medved, Eric Konkol, Grant McCasland.. Those guys are going to P5 jobs.

Dana Ford makes the most sense for the "up and coming" hire.... Mike Anderson makes the most sense for the flip side of that coin.

As for TU on the whole... I think they made serious mistakes with their conference changes. They say TU was the original Gonzaga, but what Gonzaga didn't do is change leagues several times and get into a total trap league (Missouri Valley to WAC, WAC to CUSA, CUSA to American).... The American is a trap for a school like TU. It's a one bid league that is a lot more competitive than lots of other 1 bid leagues. TU needs to be in a league where they are the favorite most years, like Gonzaga.

TU has football considerations that Gonzaga doesn't have, but either way its a total trap.

There are lots of basketball conferences that have a sensible geographic area for schools the size of TU.

The MAC:
Toledo - Ohio - Buffalo - Akron - Central Mich - Eastern Mich - Western Mich, etc...

West Coast:
Gonzaga - St Marys - Santa Clara - San Francisco - Portland - Pepperdine - Pacific, etc...

Big Sky:
Montana - Idaho - Idaho State - Montana State - Eastern WA, etc...

TU needs to go back to the Missouri Valley or something...... In a perfect world, TU would be better off in a basketball only league again of similar sized schools. Separate football and basketball again.

Conference alignments are really messed up right now, and continue to get worse and more illogical as schools make changes.

TU should play in a league with small private schools in the region, like them. The Missouri Valley fits that bill. Lots of the schools in that league have similar enrollment and characteristics of TU.

I hear you on the first part. I was just running through some names mostly based on their coaching records/performance. A lot of those names will land at a better program or get raises to stay where they're at. And I don't have inside knowledge on what TU's willing to pay at the moment which has a lot of bearing on who they can/can't get. My assumption is $1-1.5 million.

On the flipside, I don't have many sources but I was told Anderson isn't a legit option...but as always, we'll see what's real/fake. For Tulsa's sake, I hope he isn't. He's 62 y/o and Tulsa needs a splash of new energy. JMO. And I really doubt TU goes back to the failed-at-Mizzou well with Cuonzo (great man, average coach).

I also agree on TU in the AAC. When that happened, I knew they'd struggle especially in basketball. I do miss the MVC days.

 

[TINY]

TU need to stay away from our assistants. This bunch is going to do some great things in Norman for as long as they stay together.

 

[WTSooner]

The AAC is about to get weaker with UH, UCF, and Cincy leaving.

 

[mict085]

The AAC is about to get weaker with UH, UCF, and Cincy leaving.

The Big12 is about to get weaker with OU and texas leaving.

 

[StoopsBros]

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[WTSooner]

The Big12 is about to get weaker with OU and texas leaving.

In basketball? Not sure I'd agree with that.

UH and Cincy are no slouches historically.

But even if that is true, it has nothing to do with Tulsa.

 

[Seymore Cox]

If I'm Tulsa, my list looks like this:

Head Coaches

Grant McCasland (North Texas)
Nick McDevitt (Middle Tennessee State)
Andy Kennedy (Alabama-Birmingham)
Eric Konkol (Louisiana Tech) - former Tulsa student assistant
Dennis Gates (Cleveland State)
John Groce (Akron)
Darian DeVries (Drake)
Jeff Linder (Wyoming)
Matt McMahon (Murray State)
Dustin Kerns (Appalachian State)
Eric Henderson (South Dakota State)
Chris Jans (New Mexico State)
Todd Golden (San Francisco)
Niko Medved (Colorado State)
Drew Valentine (Loyola-Chicago)
Bob Richey (Furman)
Richie Riley (South Alabama)
Shantay Legans (Portland)
Mark Prosser (Winthrop)
Joe Golding (Texas-El Paso)
Jordan Mincy (Jacksonville)
Dana Ford (Missouri State)


Not at a school right now

Chris Mack (Louisville/Xavier)
Mark Turgeon (Maryland/Xavier/Texas A&M)
Archie Miller (Dayton/Indiana)

Assistants

David Patrick (Oklahoma)
Jerome Tang (Baylor)
Roger Powell Jr (Gonzaga)
Brian Michaelson (Gonzaga)
Alvin Brooks III (Baylor)

.....I need to dive deeper. This was a fast run through.

Mike Anderson &/or Cuonzo Martin aren't candidates thankfully (I say that as a semi-TU fan).

I hear Kyle Keller is in the lead.

 

[MJSooner]

I hear Kyle Keller is in the lead.

IMO, that would be a solid hire. Not a lot of flash, and maybe some weakness in getting his teams into a postseason (the league doesn't help) but SFA plays some good basketball.

I am not sure that will be good enough to get fans re-engaged though, which Rick Dickson said is a priority across the athletic department.

 

[hoopsaustin]

IMO, that would be a solid hire. Not a lot of flash, and maybe some weakness in getting his teams into a postseason (the league doesn't help) but SFA plays some good basketball.

I am not sure that will be good enough to get fans re-engaged though, which Rick Dickson said is a priority across the athletic department.

I think that'd be solid. McCasland and then id go for Archie Miller

 

[StoopsBros]

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would be really interesting...

 

[hoopsaustin]

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would be really interesting...

Dang. Id do that instantaneously if i were TU

 

[Seymore Cox]

I think that'd be solid. McCasland and then id go for Archie Miller

He’s paying for the job to my understanding.

 

[StoopsBros]

Frank Haith update

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[WichitaSooner]

Frank Haith update

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Plan the parade because the natty is inevitable.

 

[ouboomer]

love these old threads, wasn't their also one where somebody was insisting that Fred Hoiberg was a better coach than Lon Kruger, yeah that record at Nebraska....good times...