Freakin Osu....I swear...never...

[jackson_supersooner]

Do you ever win when I root for you! But always when I'm not you do!

 

[trueou]

So you rooted for them in both games against OU? Sorry, I am kidding, just couldn't resist the temptation.

 

[jackson_supersooner]

Haha ok maybe I was a little over dramatic. But it does seem when I REEEEEALLY want them to win they don't ever pull through. Would love to see them pull this out and lock us into sole possession of 3rd place and then the game @ISU decide 2nd.

 

[bocabull]

Why would an OU fan ever want lil brother to win? They are terrible & have the worst coach in the Big XII. They are proof the league is terribly overrated. That a team that pathetic can be .500 in the league shows the Big XII is very mediocre.

 

[AdaSooner]

Why would an OU fan ever want lil brother to win? They are terrible & have the worst coach in the Big XII. They are proof the league is terribly overrated. That a team that pathetic can be .500 in the league shows the Big XII is very mediocre.

Why do you continue to say the Big 12 is overrated when none of the basketball experts in the country agree with you? I know you don't care much for statistics, but these stats tell an entirely different story than the one you try to spin:


Big 12 men’s basketball has a combined .659 win percentage for its
teams - the best mark by any conference since 1985-86 (ACC, .664) and
the seventh-best since 1944-45.

The Big 12 is the No. 1 conference in the RPI and Sagarin Ratings. Seven
teams are among the top 34 of the RPI - the most of any conference in
the nation. The next closest league has five.

Six Big 12 teams are ranked in the top 19 for strength of schedule - easily
the most of any conference. Nine league schools are in the top 68.
Thirty-five of the last 39 games played in Big 12 men’s basketball have
involved at least one nationally-ranked team.

For the first time in Big 12 history, every team in the conference has at
least one win over a top 25 team.

The Big 12 has had seven top 25 teams two different weeks this year, six
in nine straight weeks and at least five in 13 consecutive weeks.
The Big 12 is the only conference in the nation where every team has 12
victories or more and the only one with 90 percent of its squads at .500
or better.

The Big 12 non-conference winning percentage (.827) is the best by
any league since the 2004-05 season and only the second time that any
conference has been over .800.

Big 12 men’s basketball has the nation’s best non-conference record
(105-22, .827). The Big 12 is the only conference in the nation that is at
.800 or better this season.

Nine of the 10 teams in the Big 12 have been ranked in the top 25 at some
point since January 1, 2014.

Big 12 men’s basketball has combined to post a 25-16 (.610) record
versus the ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and SEC this season.
Eight of 10 teams in the Big 12 have been ranked in the top 25 this
season. Nine of the 10 have been ranked or received votes.

Big 12 men’s basketball has a .500 or better record against every
conference it has faced this season (29 total).
Showcasing the depth of the Conference, teams predicted to finish
6th through 10th in the Big 12 preseason poll were 56-7 (.889) in
nonconference play. Teams picked 8th - 10th were 33-5 (.868).

http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdfs/mbasketball/Big_12_MBB_Update.pdf

 

[SoonerinNC]

The conference is the strongest I have seen from top to bottom. What the conference lacks is a sure fire final four team.

But we probably beat any conference in a head to head matchup.

 

[coolm]

I am sorry but to call the big-12 overrated is idiotic.

 

[bocabull]

Here's some non conference losses for every Big XII team:

Kansas - #30 Temple
Iowa State - #89 South Carolina
Oklahoma - #131 Creighton
West Virginia - #48 LSU
Baylor - #42 Illinois
Oklahoma State - #89 South Carolina
Kansas State - #157 Texas Southern
Texas - #50 Stanford
TCU - Only played 1 top 125 team.
Texas Tech - #259 Houston

The league has parity, but is vastly overrated which will likely be exposed in March. Again, Oklahoma State and Kansas State are very bad basketball teams and hover around .500 because the league is mediocre.

As for every basketball expert claiming the league is the best, we shall see what they say come selection Sunday when the incentive to talk it up is gone. I think that's more ESPN homering the TV contract. When you see empty arena's that's because the product is not very good no matter what the "experts" say.

 

[bocabull]

The conference is the strongest I have seen from top to bottom. What the conference lacks is a sure fire final four team.

But we probably beat any conference in a head to head matchup.

The conference lacks a sure fire sweet 16 team.

 

[1390]

Here's some non conference losses for every Big XII team:

Kansas - #30 Temple
Iowa State - #89 South Carolina
Oklahoma - #131 Creighton
West Virginia - #48 LSU
Baylor - #42 Illinois
Oklahoma State - #89 South Carolina
Kansas State - #157 Texas Southern
Texas - #50 Stanford
TCU - Only played 1 top 125 team.
Texas Tech - #259 Houston

The league has parity, but is vastly overrated which will likely be exposed in March. Again, Oklahoma State and Kansas State are very bad basketball teams and hover around .500 because the league is mediocre.

As for every basketball expert claiming the league is the best, we shall see what they say come selection Sunday when the incentive to talk it up is gone. I think that's more ESPN homering the TV contract. When you see empty arena's that's because the product is not very good no matter what the "experts" say.

I will agree with you on this...Kansas st is bad and OU had no business getting swept by them

 

[JBaker]

Here's some non conference losses for every Big XII team:

Kansas - #30 Temple
Iowa State - #89 South Carolina
Oklahoma - #131 Creighton
West Virginia - #48 LSU
Baylor - #42 Illinois
Oklahoma State - #89 South Carolina
Kansas State - #157 Texas Southern
Texas - #50 Stanford
TCU - Only played 1 top 125 team.
Texas Tech - #259 Houston

The league has parity, but is vastly overrated which will likely be exposed in March. Again, Oklahoma State and Kansas State are very bad basketball teams and hover around .500 because the league is mediocre.

As for every basketball expert claiming the league is the best, we shall see what they say come selection Sunday when the incentive to talk it up is gone. I think that's more ESPN homering the TV contract. When you see empty arena's that's because the product is not very good no matter what the "experts" say.

Find me a conference that doesn't have losses like that or worse.

 

[bocabull]

I will agree with you on this...Kansas st is bad and OU had no business getting swept by them

So the Big XII has all those non conference losses and how many non conference wins against top 20 teams? 1. Kansas beat Utah. Our win over #24 Butler and Iowa State win over #23 Arkansas are the only other even decent non conference wins.

 

[AdaSooner]

The conference lacks a sure fire sweet 16 team.

Parity will likely play a major role in the tourney this year, so there are no guarantees for anyone. I agree, however, that there are no sure fire final four teams in the Big 12.

But the conference you have said in the past is the best in the country is top heavy. When you get beyond Duke, ND, Virginia and Louisville, there are no sure fire bets to even make the tourney this season.

North Carolina is playing better now, so I expect them to be there. The rest of teams in the ACC are at the very least on the proverbial bubble. I hope you know that bad losses are not a Big 12 exclusive. N.C. has losses to Michigan, St. Johns and Cal. Even Notre Dame, who sits at the #2 spot right now has a bad loss to Providence, a bubble team in the mighty Big East.

Syracuse has the name, but it would be easier to name their wins than the losses. Miami, the only other team with a winning record in the ACC, is going to the NIT.

In short, five of the fifteen teams in the ACC will get invited to the Big Dance. That is, unless the committee gift wraps an invitation out of the goodness of their collective hearts for another team in the conference you believe is the best.

 

[bocabull]

Find me a conference that doesn't have losses like that or worse.

Easy. The ACC has Virginia, Duke, Louisville, Notre Dame who did not have any bad out of conference losses.

 

[bocabull]

Even Notre Dame, who sits at the #2 spot right now has a bad loss to Providence, a bubble team in the mighty Big East.

Providence is ranked #21. Better ranking than any Big XII non conference victory other than Kansas win over Utah.

Don't forget Pitt Ada, who btw beat KSU 70-47. lol They should make it over OSU.

 

[AdaSooner]

Providence is ranked #21. Better ranking than any Big XII non conference victory other than Kansas win over Utah.

Don't forget Pitt Ada, who btw beat KSU 70-47. lol They should make it over OSU.

Beating KSU on a neutral court is nothing to brag about. I still don't know how OU lost to them twice?

Like I said earlier, bad losses happen in every conference. It will be interesting to see how things shake out in the NCAA tourney. But, even that, may not prove anything. The NCAA tourney is all about match ups. One bad game and you're catching the next flight home.

I have no idea how OU will perform in the tourney? Just when I think they are finally clicking on both sides of the ball, they prove me wrong. I do know that I will be cheering for them win or lose.

 

[skyvue]

KSU took Arizona to the wire.

 

[NMSooner'80]

Do you ever win when I root for you! But always when I'm not you do!

I think subconsciously they can't make themselves do anything that helps OU. It sure held true when Pat Jones was their football coach. I'm still convinced they had NO desire to beat Nebraska, even when they were good enough to do it, because it was good for the hated Gooners.

 

[WTSooner]

I actually think the Big 12 is going to under perform come NCAA Tourney time. Might not be as obvious with 6-7 teams Dancing, but I think you'll see that we have a bunch of solid teams, but not very many, if any, really good ones. I'd guess, without seeing brackets, 2 into the Sweet 16, and one Elite 8 team. No Final Four teams.

 

[WTSooner]

Here's some non conference losses for every Big XII team:

Kansas - #30 Temple
Iowa State - #89 South Carolina
Oklahoma - #131 Creighton
West Virginia - #48 LSU
Baylor - #42 Illinois
Oklahoma State - #89 South Carolina
Kansas State - #157 Texas Southern
Texas - #50 Stanford
TCU - Only played 1 top 125 team.
Texas Tech - #259 Houston

The league has parity, but is vastly overrated which will likely be exposed in March. Again, Oklahoma State and Kansas State are very bad basketball teams and hover around .500 because the league is mediocre.

As for every basketball expert claiming the league is the best, we shall see what they say come selection Sunday when the incentive to talk it up is gone. I think that's more ESPN homering the TV contract. When you see empty arena's that's because the product is not very good no matter what the "experts" say.

Wouldn't mind seeing best OOC wins too. I don't remember a bunch of impressive ones for the league.