Gabe Olaseni

[rickjames]

Will we offer him a scholarhip since Goff won't be coming? I know the Wyoming transfer shouldn't count as a scholarship for this year's class right? Because assuming he has to sit out a year.

 

[Max Power]

Will we offer him a scholarhip since Goff won't be coming? I know the Wyoming transfer shouldn't count as a scholarship for this year's class right? Because assuming he has to sit out a year.

he will still count since he will be redshirting

 

[cvangild]

That is not correct. He won't count towards this year's class. He will count towards next year's class.

B-ball rules are different than football.

 

[Tony]

That is not correct. He won't count towards this year's class. He will count towards next year's class.

B-ball rules are different than football.

If a player is at a school on an athletic scholarship, he counts against the 13-scholarship limit, whether he is sitting out the season as a transfer or not.

 

[MisterF]

He counts as soon as he steps on campus.

 

[dchief42]

he will count this year

 

[oketex]

It was posted by someone other than this board that Coach K said that we would count for next year thus keeping open one ship for this year.

 

[Tony]

It was posted by someone other than this board that Coach K said that we would count for next year thus keeping open one ship for this year.

I don't understand what this means. College basketball doesn't have rules about how many players can be signed in one season. It's not like football. You are allowed to have 13 scholarships allocated at any given time. You don't just count it against a certain recruiting class and then never have to worry about how many scholarship players you have.

 

[boksooner]

The only way he doesn't count is if he comes in as a walk-on, and then Kruger gave him a scholarship next year. Most kids aren't willing to pay their own way during their transfer year.

 

[AdaSooner]

I don't understand what this means. College basketball doesn't have rules about how many players can be signed in one season. It's not like football. You are allowed to have 13 scholarships allocated at any given time. You don't just count it against a certain recruiting class and then never have to worry about how many scholarship players you have.

You're spot on, Tony. I know how this got started, read it myself on another board. The limit in basketball is 13, which is why coaches have to be cautious about the players they sign. There is very little room for error since the limit went from 15 to 13 several years ago.

 

[atlantasooner]

Sounds like Kruger didn't offer Olaseni.

And with the negative news on Goff's academics, I'd imagine that Kruger is targeting a JUCO big men replacement.

 

[Soonerborn03]

Doesn't the M'Baye transfer just take the scholarship that was going to go to Goff?

That would leave us with one scholarship remaining would it not?

1, Blair
2. Clark
3. Fitz
4. Grooms
5. Hardrick
6. M'Baye
7. Neal
8. Newell
9. Osby
10. Pledger
11. Thompson
12. Washington

Walk-ons: Franklin, Honore, Fraschilla (possibly)

 

[atlantasooner]

I'm betting
Hardrick and Thompson are gone by next fall.

 

[Sawyer]

You're spot on, Tony. I know how this got started, read it myself on another board. The limit in basketball is 13, which is why coaches have to be cautious about the players they sign. There is very little room for error since the limit went from 15 to 13 several years ago.

Yep... 13 total with no limit for individual years (there was a 5/8 rule for awhile... glad they got rid of that).

When did the limit go from 15 to 13? I would like to see scholarship limits increase across the board in all sports. If schools had 15 scholarships as opposed to 13, a guy like Josh Richardson would probably never leave the state of Oklahoma.

 

[AdaSooner]

Yep... 13 total with no limit for individual years (there was a 5/8 rule for awhile... glad they got rid of that).

When did the limit go from 15 to 13? I would like to see scholarship limits increase across the board in all sports. If schools had 15 scholarships as opposed to 13, a guy like Josh Richardson would probably never leave the state of Oklahoma.

I was hoping no one would ask that question.

I'm not sure of the date? In trying to find the answer, I ran across several brief references to the change but nothing that spelled it out in detail. One blip I read said the year was 1991. Here's the link to the article:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1999/weekly/990111/cb0111/

I thought the quote below and this article were more interesting, because it reminded me that the scholarship limit for men's college basketball was at 18 many years ago, before it was reduced to 15 and then to the current limit of 13. If you'll recall, there was a huge outcry of protest from the BCA that received a lot of attention nationally when the reduction from 15 to 13 was proposed. That may be one of the reasons I remembered it.

Calhoun focused on two contributing factors to this so-called “rise of the mid-majors.” One was the gradual spreading of talent across 300-plus Division I programs, thanks to reductions in scholarship limits over several decades, from 18 to 15 to 13. The other has been the large number of star players who first skipped directly from high school to the NBA and, since 2005, play one year of college ball before turning pro. Calhoun said this week he counted 23 current NBA players who would still be playing in college had they not left early.

http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1700894996/Wessler-Butler-here-for-the-parting-gifts

 

[sys]

i would hate to see the limit raised. if anything, it should be lowered to 12.

you can only play five, raising the limit would just lead to more players being recruited with no realistic chance to get meaningful minutes, and hence, more unhappy players and more transfers.

 

[AdaSooner]

i would hate to see the limit raised. if anything, it should be lowered to 12.

you can only play five, raising the limit would just lead to more players being recruited with no realistic chance to get meaningful minutes, and hence, more unhappy players and more transfers.

Yeah, I don't think the limit should be raised. But I would hate to see it lowered too much. Going to 12 might not be all that bad. All it takes is a defection or two during the season, a semester where someone doesn't make his grades, a rash of injuries and a transfer sitting the year out, to cut into that total in a hurry.

I remember a time not long ago when OU tipped the season off thinking we had plenty of depth to go ten or more deep, only to finish the season barely getting by with a seven or eight player rotation. Those 13 schollies have a way of disappearing pretty fast sometimes.

 

[sanguinetti]

i would hate to see the limit raised. if anything, it should be lowered to 12.

you can only play five, raising the limit would just lead to more players being recruited with no realistic chance to get meaningful minutes, and hence, more unhappy players and more transfers.

and all the while being more expensive for the AD, when those moneys could go to a student-athlete in split schollie sports, like baseball or into tutoring services or whatever.

 

[coolm]

wasn't he on "Welcome Back Kotter"?