Hannah Gusters to Baylor

[SoonerinNC]

Righton about the talent waste at Texas. Along with the head coaches at UCLA and North Carolina Aston is one of the biggest talent wasters in womans basketball.

But don't put Baylor in that category. They get great talent and have totally dominated the Big 12 and just won the big one. I don't care for Mulkey either but she has brought a team from doormat level to one of the best year after year.

 

[sybarite]

I think the question of how good of a coach Mulkey is becomes irrelevant. She might be a good pro coach. But, the university is a learning situation, and I question anyone who values anything that she teaches. We have had national writers in the world of ESPN sports question whether she was good for basketball. She certainly is not good for women in an academic setting.

I think the Baylor endowment is actually larger than OU's. Last I saw a listing, they had about a billion more. What, exactly, does Baylor teach? The sports facilities that they have built in recent years would be such that Jerry Jones might be jealous. Yet, they have almost no credibility academically. Their entire football staff and university president had to be terminated (against the wishes of the Baylor alums) to avoid, perhaps, the death penalty due to their concealment of how many rape cases?

I really had high hopes for Mulkey after the 2005 title. Then, one of the key players left, telling of her betrayal by Kim. I think her lack of integrity has been cited in two books now by her players. It is interesting that three or four starters, including Sophia Young, returned from that team, only to suffer three straight losses to an OU team that had added a rather key player. Seasoned national champions, and they couldn't win one? Even when they fouled her while she was out of bounds without it being called intentional?

Kim is a pretty good coach. But, if she is what the future of women's college basketball is, include me out. I think women's sports survive because they are different from men's sports. The girls actually go to class, get degrees, graduate. The guys hope to go to the NFL or NBA after their rookie years. Lot of underclassmen in the draft. Not a lot are regarded highly for their academics. Women are still a little bit about college..

 

[Soonerbay]

Righton about the talent waste at Texas. Along with the head coaches at UCLA and North Carolina Aston is one of the biggest talent wasters in womans basketball.

But don't put Baylor in that category. They get great talent and have totally dominated the Big 12 and just won the big one. I don't care for Mulkey either but she has brought a team from doormat level to one of the best year after year.

Exactly...and it just burns my hide every time OU and baylor play as of late. Well, the last 9 years or so. I remember when OU 2005-2010 was committed to beating baylor if they didn't beat anyone else. Now mulkey is grinning and licking her chops with her "big ole post players" (as she referred to them). I'm sure she had a "Come to Jesus Meeting" (they are a Christian college, right?) and vowed that if she couldn't beat them (Paris' and Olajuwon), then join them...well, she went and got some mobile strong post of her own. OU's post gave baylor more than they bargained for. And I will always believe CParis was robbed of a opportunity to be a 4 time Big 12 POY. She owned SYoung her freshman year. She should have won both FOY and POY...if that's possible. I'd love to see the Paris' and Olajawon sit right near her bench during a game. She might get distracted with PTSD and blow the game. Well, probably not until OU gets some "big ole post" again.

 

[inoref]

I think the question of how good of a coach Mulkey is becomes irrelevant. She might be a good pro coach. But, the university is a learning situation, and I question anyone who values anything that she teaches. We have had national writers in the world of ESPN sports question whether she was good for basketball. She certainly is not good for women in an academic setting.

I think the Baylor endowment is actually larger than OU's. Last I saw a listing, they had about a billion more. What, exactly, does Baylor teach? The sports facilities that they have built in recent years would be such that Jerry Jones might be jealous. Yet, they have almost no credibility academically. Their entire football staff and university president had to be terminated (against the wishes of the Baylor alums) to avoid, perhaps, the death penalty due to their concealment of how many rape cases?

I really had high hopes for Mulkey after the 2005 title. Then, one of the key players left, telling of her betrayal by Kim. I think her lack of integrity has been cited in two books now by her players. It is interesting that three or four starters, including Sophia Young, returned from that team, only to suffer three straight losses to an OU team that had added a rather key player. Seasoned national champions, and they couldn't win one? Even when they fouled her while she was out of bounds without it being called intentional?

Kim is a pretty good coach. But, if she is what the future of women's college basketball is, include me out. I think women's sports survive because they are different from men's sports. The girls actually go to class, get degrees, graduate. The guys hope to go to the NFL or NBA after their rookie years. Lot of underclassmen in the draft. Not a lot are regarded highly for their academics. Women are still a little bit about college..

It's not like OU hasn't any ladies leaving the program, oh that's right its always the fault of the player. KM is a darn good coach other than that I couldn't care less what she does or does not do. I had high hopes for SC too..
sometimes we don't get what we want.

 

[skilledserv]

I think the question of how good of a coach Mulkey is becomes irrelevant. She might be a good pro coach. But, the university is a learning situation, and I question anyone who values anything that she teaches. We have had national writers in the world of ESPN sports question whether she was good for basketball. She certainly is not good for women in an academic setting.

I think the Baylor endowment is actually larger than OU's. Last I saw a listing, they had about a billion more. What, exactly, does Baylor teach? The sports facilities that they have built in recent years would be such that Jerry Jones might be jealous. Yet, they have almost no credibility academically. Their entire football staff and university president had to be terminated (against the wishes of the Baylor alums) to avoid, perhaps, the death penalty due to their concealment of how many rape cases?

I really had high hopes for Mulkey after the 2005 title. Then, one of the key players left, telling of her betrayal by Kim. I think her lack of integrity has been cited in two books now by her players. It is interesting that three or four starters, including Sophia Young, returned from that team, only to suffer three straight losses to an OU team that had added a rather key player. Seasoned national champions, and they couldn't win one? Even when they fouled her while she was out of bounds without it being called intentional?

Kim is a pretty good coach. But, if she is what the future of women's college basketball is, include me out. I think women's sports survive because they are different from men's sports. The girls actually go to class, get degrees, graduate. The guys hope to go to the NFL or NBA after their rookie years. Lot of underclassmen in the draft. Not a lot are regarded highly for their academics. Women are still a little bit about college..

Before you decide to write, why don’t you do some research. That football stuff you are talking about, have you seen the news lately? The young man won the case and is entering the undrafted free agents. We just live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent. It’s really sad that humans have become this way.

As far as Chasity Patterson goes, you couldn’t be more wrong but this is something that you are used to (being wrong) and when you see her play this year, you will eat those words. It had nothing to do with any of the kids, it was all on Karen Aston and her inability to coach.

Do yourself a favor, and stop saying you are watching games, when you know you haven’t. If you are watching these AAU games, you have no clue what you are watching.

 

[Southie]

Before you decide to write, why don’t you do some research. That football stuff you are talking about, have you seen the news lately? The young man won the case and is entering the undrafted free agents. We just live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent. It’s really sad that humans have become this way.

As far as Chasity Patterson goes, you couldn’t be more wrong but this is something that you are used to (being wrong) and when you see her play this year, you will eat those words. It had nothing to do with any of the kids, it was all on Karen Aston and her inability to coach.

Do yourself a favor, and stop saying you are watching games, when you know you haven’t. If you are watching these AAU games, you have no clue what you are watching.

How 'bout you do yourself a favor and quit trashing coaches? You weren't even there. Always pretending to be an insider.

 

[atlantasooner]

Skilledserv,
There's one single OU message board rule to follow IMHO

Any defense of Baylor's football program under Art Briles should get you banned.
Just because Shawn Oakman's case was dismissed does nothing to absolve Baylor's
administration and coaching staff from their total disregard of the safety of their
students from the myriad of sexual assaults and incidents that occurred on campus.

You want to defend Kim Mulkey's bball program. Go ahead, but the ****show that was
Baylor football is indefensible.

 

[sybarite]

Before you decide to write, why don’t you do some research. That football stuff you are talking about, have you seen the news lately? The young man won the case and is entering the undrafted free agents. We just live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent. It’s really sad that humans have become this way.

As far as Chasity Patterson goes, you couldn’t be more wrong but this is something that you are used to (being wrong) and when you see her play this year, you will eat those words. It had nothing to do with any of the kids, it was all on Karen Aston and her inability to coach.

Do yourself a favor, and stop saying you are watching games, when you know you haven’t. If you are watching these AAU games, you have no clue what you are watching.

1. Which young man? I mentioned no single one man or any particular case. How many were there?

2. `I posted Patterson's stats. The NCAA stats are wrong?

3. Mount Vernon used to be famous for being Don Meredith's home