Hardest season to stomach in many years

[coolm]

I think this has been the hardest season to take for me since that train wreck of Capel's with his so-called mcd aa's.

my view is always one of improvement through the season and this has been the exact opposite.

I do appreciate that many of the kids are still out there playing through - but that team I saw on the floor today didnt have 1/10th of the hustle that UT laid out.

Not sure I can remember the last time I saw an OU team just quit on a season. Even in the absolute crumbiest years we've always had that one or two guys we could hang a hat on for effort. I dont even see one of them now.

I am thinking you'd hafta go back to the Dave Bliss days or later to find that.

And we don't even get to look forward to the experience gained and new recruits coming in for help. This group is lost, Trae is leaving, and next season's not looking like a reprieve.

Horrible disappointment.

 

[oudna]

‘93 and ‘04 but this may be worse.

 

[MercedeSooner]

This group is an offensive team that when they don’t make shots lose energy and get even worse defensively (if you can believe that). It’s just a really bad style of basketball to watch and plain old not fun. I still have hope that we ll start making some shots but it’s clear teams have figured out how to defend us and the staff has not figured out how to adjust which is all on Lon.

I never bought into the early hype and thought we would be 7-10 seed before the season started but we just have to make adjustments to get this thing turned around. I guess I’m the dumb one now still thinking we re 1 game away from making another run.

 

[afaSooner]

Spot on post. If we knew TY was coming back, this wouldn't be so devastating. He's one of the most impacting freshmen to come along in years yet it looks as if this season is just turning out to be TY's NBA training grounds. No championship in sight at the moment. I like TY's vigor when at the teams post game conference today he said... "We still have a chance to win the National Championship." but in reality this team is not trending in that direction whatsoever despite everyone's expectations early in the year was that they should be one of the best.

Disappointing.

 

[WTSooner]

I like TY's vigor when at the teams post game conference today he said... "We still have a chance to win the National Championship." but in reality this team is not trending in that direction whatsoever despite everyone's expectations early in the year was that they should be one of the best.

He also made a lot of excuses, ie, how he is being guarded.

True or not, I didn't like those comments.

 

[sdcloud9]

He's frustrated and I get that....but today he just made excuses for not playing well.

 

[DenverSooner]

My problem with this team is they don’t seem to understand the best defensive team wins. This is especially true when teams are evenly matched.

 

[WaymanFan]

‘93 and ‘04 but this may be worse.

Not '04 - that was more like '91; a "Murphy's Law" year. I thought Kelvin did a good job with that team based on what he had to work with after Bookout went down. His '06 team underachieved far more than the '04 team did. The 2010 team was the most frustrating to watch, but this year's team is starting to rival that one.

 

[Darwin]

This team was suppose to be a work in progress that wasn't near the best in conference. Trae burst onto the stage with a nice assist from Brady and things seemed easy. There was discussion on this board about Lon coaching hard back in December and some knew there was much room for improvement. Could it be some on the team were not listening, were not focused because it seemed easy. This team is young and has two upperclassmen that contribute a lot. Before Trae was one and done it seemed next year was the year with 7 upperclassmen as a backbone for the team. It is a sad time because it seemed easy to a lot of us and anything like this last month was inconceivable without injuries.

 

[Matthew G]

I think this has been the hardest season to take for me since that train wreck of Capel's with his so-called mcd aa's.

my view is always one of improvement through the season and this has been the exact opposite.

I do appreciate that many of the kids are still out there playing through - but that team I saw on the floor today didnt have 1/10th of the hustle that UT laid out.

Not sure I can remember the last time I saw an OU team just quit on a season. Even in the absolute crumbiest years we've always had that one or two guys we could hang a hat on for effort. I dont even see one of them now.

I am thinking you'd hafta go back to the Dave Bliss days or later to find that.

And we don't even get to look forward to the experience gained and new recruits coming in for help. This group is lost, Trae is leaving, and next season's not looking like a reprieve.

Horrible disappointment.

Idk,I still feel for the 15/16 team, getting beat the way they got in the Final Four. That team was legit, put the time and effort in to get better every day, etc. and to have it end like they did, no matter how much fun there was that year, still is a hard pill to swallow for me.

This year, I never thought we were that good, definitely not top 10 good, and knew we were a 1 trick pony. The disappointing part to me is seeing what appears to be no chemistry and players who don't care to play with each other. Trae's going to the NBA, everyone knows this, and it shows on the court. Guys stand around and let Trae do whatever because they don't care anymore.


Personally, just for the rest of the season, I'd love to see Kruger make starting lineup changes. Whether that's taking Manek out, Odomes out, etc. and put other guys in just to get a fresh look out there. Hell, I'd be in favor of putting Trae as a SG instead of the PG against KU, just so we can run offensive plays, because with Trae as a PG, we can't set a screen for him because he gets doubled and throws it away

 

[NickZepp]

Why where we expecting a lot better?

We basically have the same mediocre roster as last year.

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[chuckb]

Idk,I still feel for the 15/16 team, getting beat the way they got in the Final Four. That team was legit, put the time and effort in to get better every day, etc. and to have it end like they did, no matter how much fun there was that year, still is a hard pill to swallow for me.

This year, I never thought we were that good, definitely not top 10 good, and knew we were a 1 trick pony. The disappointing part to me is seeing what appears to be no chemistry and players who don't care to play with each other. Trae's going to the NBA, everyone knows this, and it shows on the court. Guys stand around and let Trae do whatever because they don't care anymore.


Personally, just for the rest of the season, I'd love to see Kruger make starting lineup changes. Whether that's taking Manek out, Odomes out, etc. and put other guys in just to get a fresh look out there. Hell, I'd be in favor of putting Trae as a SG instead of the PG against KU, just so we can run offensive plays, because with Trae as a PG, we can't set a screen for him because he gets doubled and throws it away

I've read some ridiculous stuff on this board in the last couple of weeks, but this unquestionably the worst.

 

[stormspencer]

I think this has been the hardest season to take for me since that train wreck of Capel's with his so-called mcd aa's.

my view is always one of improvement through the season and this has been the exact opposite.

I do appreciate that many of the kids are still out there playing through - but that team I saw on the floor today didnt have 1/10th of the hustle that UT laid out.

Not sure I can remember the last time I saw an OU team just quit on a season. Even in the absolute crumbiest years we've always had that one or two guys we could hang a hat on for effort. I dont even see one of them now.

I am thinking you'd hafta go back to the Dave Bliss days or later to find that.

And we don't even get to look forward to the experience gained and new recruits coming in for help. This group is lost, Trae is leaving, and next season's not looking like a reprieve.

Horrible disappointment.

Good post. Unfortunately, I began to see some "give up" from our guys yesterday.....and that is never a good sign. We will see what happens tomorrow, but I am far from encouraged.

 

[sooner8693]

Good post. Unfortunately, I began to see some "give up" from our guys yesterday.....and that is never a good sign. We will see what happens tomorrow, but I am far from encouraged.

Unfortunately I saw some of that same "give up". This team could be nearing it's end. I hope not, but, didn't look good.

 

[cvangild]

The ONLY good thing is, this team still has a shot to get "hot" going into the tournament. And if this team is shooting the ball well (like we were the first 15 games of the year), we have a chance to go on a run in the big dance...since we won't be playing teams that are familiar with us.

Believe me, I'm not predicting this to happen or so it even might happen...but this teams is CAPABLE of playing at a high level, as has been proven several times this year!

If Trae can get his stroke back and start playing loose again, and Manek/James/McGusty hitting shot consistently, it could be fun!

Big IF though!!!!!!!

 

[WTSooner]

Why where we expecting a lot better?

We basically have the same mediocre roster as last year.

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Because the argument last year was that we didn't have a pg (this year we do), and we were young (McGusty and Doolittle were freshmen, and James/Odomes were still underclassmen).

I didn't completely buy into that, though I did expect a LOT more from McGusty this year than he has shown.

 

[sdcloud9]

Because the argument last year was that we didn't have a pg (this year we do), and we were young (McGusty and Doolittle were freshmen, and James/Odomes were still underclassmen).

I didn't completely buy into that, though I did expect a LOT more from McGusty this year than he has shown.

James last year and McGusty this year have had bad sophomore slumps. Cam hasn't had the minutes but he hasn't earned any minutes with his play. Shepherd has struggled but again, not many minutes.

Some guys have improved (Odomes, McNeese) while some haven't. It makes you wonder about some guys work ethic (I don't know anything but as an ex high school assistant, I have seen guys not put the work in and pay for it later).

In the last five minutes Saturday you could see a team that's confidence is shot. They know the snowball is rolling they can't get it stopped.

Manek and Young have hit the wall a bit mentally, it's a hard league. In high school they could get away with not being ready to play but in college, it doesn't work.

Allen FH is not the place to get well, unfortunately.

 

[oudna]

Why where we expecting a lot better?

We basically have the same mediocre roster as last year.

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You added a 5-star point guard - which happened to be the biggest position of need.

The two best returning players were freshmen that you expected to be even better.

I expected to be a solid tourney team. Not this tank job.

 

[NickZepp]

Because the argument last year was that we didn't have a pg (this year we do), and we were young (McGusty and Doolittle were freshmen, and James/Odomes were still underclassmen).

I didn't completely buy into that, though I did expect a LOT more from McGusty this year than he has shown.

It's not like we had a terrible PG all of last year. Jordan Woodard was not near 100% but he was a pretty good PG too. We are probably just not much better than a 18 or so win team talent wise. We just don't have the inside defense/rebounding. Guards aren't consistent enough outside of James maybe.

 

[WaymanFan]

You added a 5-star point guard - which happened to be the biggest position of need.

The two best returning players were freshmen that you expected to be even better.

I expected to be a solid tourney team. Not this tank job.

My thoughts exactly. Plus, no one could have predicted that all 4 sophomores would have worse seasons than they did as freshmen.