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[BanjoCharley]

From Hornfans:

"Despite her God-awful hair, Coale is a great coach. Maybe that's what it takes. Bad hair. It works for Baylor and OU."

I like Sherri's hair.

 

[sybarite]

Watching Texas fans this year, I think they realize that they aren't getting the most of their talent. Aston has yet to prove that she is the great coach that Texas wants. Her record is pretty good, but it has not yet attained definition.

 

[tycat947]

Watching Texas fans this year, I think they realize that they aren't getting the most of their talent. Aston has yet to prove that she is the great coach that Texas wants. Her record is pretty good, but it has not yet attained definition.

Yes. Great recruiter but still has a ways to go on the coaching side IMO.

 

[SoonerNorm]

I would be careful about under-estimating Aston's coaching ability. First, they are short-handed due to injuries. Secondly, I don't know a whole lot more she could have done differently the other night to beat us. Lastly, when you have the kind of talent that she is accumulating, it makes the coach look like an x and o genius.

 

[sybarite]

While it is possible that Aston might turn Texas around, she is three years older than Sherri and has been to two NCAA tournaments, never past the second round. She still has a losing conference record at Texas, and she didn't inherit a dead program. At some point, you have to win something.

 

[scrybe]

I like Aston, but it would be disingenuous for anyone to imply that she is on par with Sherri as a coach. Sherri will almost always win head-to-head when the talent is equal – and she'll win more times than not when OU's talent is slightly inferior (see Wednesday).

 

[SoonerNorm]

I like Aston, but it would be disingenuous for anyone to imply that she is on par with Sherri as a coach. Sherri will almost always win head-to-head when the talent is equal – and she'll win more times than not when OU's talent is slightly inferior (see Wednesday).

What do you base that on? Just curious.

 

[sybarite]

I like Aston, but it would be disingenuous for anyone to imply that she is on par with Sherri as a coach. Sherri will almost always win head-to-head when the talent is equal – and she'll win more times than not when OU's talent is slightly inferior (see Wednesday).

Slightly inferior or less publicized?

 

[euphguy]

While it is possible that Aston might turn Texas around, she is three years older than Sherri and has been to two NCAA tournaments, never past the second round. She still has a losing conference record at Texas, and she didn't inherit a dead program. At some point, you have to win something.

Sherri got a head women's basketball coaching job through extraordinary means. It is rare for a high school basketball coach to become a head college coach immediately. I only know of two other coaches on the women's side to do that (although there may be more): Rick Insell (MTSU), and the coach at Marist (I believe). I do feel Aston has underperformed as a head coach to this point, but that'll likely turn around in a few years. I personally don't understand comparing the two in that context, but oh well.

 

[mystery32]

IMO coach Aston is a wonderful coach and will make
Noise for years in the big 12.

First, look at the resume: although she may be older You all have to
Remember she was Jody Conradts lead Assitant and recruiter for 8 years and served as mulkey assistant for 2 before turning UNC Charlotte around and North Texas. The woman knows her stuff and how to recruit most Defenitley.

She has Defenitley proved herself to me although she didn't inherent a
"dead program" look at what she's done in her 3rd year. Going from
Not ranked at all to gradually building upon her sucess and being the #4 team in the country.

For her not making it past the 2nd round says nothing, building a power house takes time, look at Dawn Staley At South Carolina, Jeff Walz At Lousiville, Mathew Mitchell Kentucky, You think the success just happens over night? I'll say one thing the coaches I mentioned does one thing for sure and that's getting their butts out there and recruiting. Yes coach Coale has gotten out recruited these last couple years but that's doesn't make her a bad coach, her recruiting has gotten slightly better the past years but I still think she could do a better job making her self known!It happens people, they go after the same kids and yes Aston has out recruited Sherri and out coached her twice last year. Didn't we loose to Texas twice last year ? One at Texas And then Big 12 tournament? We did beat them once in Norman tho.

All I'm saying is I know people are going to have Differnt opinions but saying a coach hasn't "proved herself" and what not when clearly they have surpassed coach Coale recruiting wise, and coaching wise the last 3 years and getting the program(Longhorns) back to where it all started. If I'm not mistaken Texas was the UCONN's and Tennessee's of today and coach aston is getting her program back to that with outstanding recruiting. Not bashing coach Coale teams are going to have ups and downs but I don't see how some people would say
Karen Aston Has not proved herself yet when clearly she has.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[sybarite]

You are obviously a fan of Aston's, and she has more than one on this board. You are also a fan of recruiting. OK. The argument is that Sherri has had several down years recruiting while Texas has had several good years recruiting. According to that argument, Aston's young people should beat OU's young people. We just had a game in which the Longhorns had a bit more experience, and the best players they put on the floor were juniors and seniors. The best players for OU tended to be freshmen and sophomores. Yet, OU won with the lesser recruited personnel. Did inferior talent win? Was Aston outcoached? Maybe, it is possible that the recruits aren't quite what has been made of them, at least not yet.

Aston is, indeed, older than Sherri. Sherri has been to the NCAA tournament for 15 straight years. Aston has been twice. Indeed, Sherri has been to nine Sweet Sixteens and three Final Fours. In order to equal that, Aston will have to be coaching at the age of 65.

Aston may be a good coach. Who she worked under is of little interest, unless you want to compare her to Bo Overton. He worked under a Hall of Fame coach. Sherri didn't.

Actually, Texas has one of the best records against OU since Sherri came, 20-22. Texas won 9 of the first 11. I'm not sure what this demonstrates. I'm not all that sure you can compare.

The point is that Aston has not yet delivered. Strangely, she just had the opportunity, and we are young with lesser recruited names. I have seen so many names come through Texas that just didn't measure up to their hype that I tend to wait for them to show what they can do. Of the players on teh floor last night, if you were to select five players for a team, what player would you want other than Enempkali? The next five or six performers were those unknowns that had found a place on the OU team. Curiously, I don't think Enempkali was a big name recruit.

If Aston is good, she'll earn her place and the recognition that goes with it. It is a bit premature to assign any measure of success because she is a great recruiter until we see how those recruits perform. A Sweet Sixteen or Elite Eight might be nice. But, based on what we saw, OU is just as good without any big name recruits.

 

[sybarite]

Incidentally, my observations of what Texas fans are wondering about Aston's teams performance comes from reading what Texas fans are saying in rather mild comments on another board, people who have been watching Texas since the early days of Conradt.

 

[mgood1]

Didn't North Texas beat Texas one time recently?
Wasn't Aston the UNT coach at the time?

 

[soonerstar]

What Hall of Fame coach did Bo Overton work under?

 

[sybarite]

What Hall of Fame coach did Bo Overton work under?

Sherri is a cinch.

 

[scrybe]

Slightly inferior or less publicized?

"Slightly inferior" was a poor choice of words. What I meant (and should have said) was "not as highly rated."

Sherri is 2-2 head-to-head against Aston in their last four games -- and with players that were not as highly rated. Someone post their overall record head to head.

 

[sybarite]

Sherri is 4-2 in the three years Aston has been at Texas. They did not meet while she was at NT or Charlotte.

 

[Mac]

I think Texas has lost there magic, and I'm not sure how great of a recruiter Aston is, Akins Hosey are the only 2 big time player she's landed, Lashann Higgs has a legal guardian on the staff, let's see if they can Land Cox or Homles, I'm going with Cox to OU and Homles to A&M.

 

[SoonerNorm]

I think Texas has lost there magic, and I'm not sure how great of a recruiter Aston is, Akins Hosey are the only 2 big time player she's landed, Lashann Higgs has a legal guardian on the staff, let's see if they can Land Cox or Homles, I'm going with Cox to OU and Homles to A&M.

They also have Sutton, Richards, and Collier coming. All are outstanding prospects.