I know I'm going to get chastised

First, stop thinking like a middle-aged white male. We probably don't need middle-aged males on the OU women's basketball team. The idea of recruiting is that you have to think like a recruit. If I'm a gymnastics prospect, my parents are probably fairly wealthy (cost of training), and I probably live in a somewhat upscale neighborhood. It's amazing how many come out of Plano or Park Ridge, IL. That is a different mindset from the typical basketball recruit.

Just as a reminder, Sheldon Williams and Richa Jackson were from Midwest City. Why didn't they stay in Oklahoma? We lose a lot of basketball players, African-American and caucasian.

If I am a top, minority recruit, which many are, do I think like a middle-aged white male? Let's not make this in any way political, but let's recognize that the white male tends to vote about 75% the opposite way from the minority who votes 95% the other way. That is a huge, huge difference in perspective. The politics isn't important. But, what gives rise to that difference in perspective is.

As a young person, I look at what is important to me and my entire future. The white male fan is looking at a basketball team. I'm looking at my entire life. What are my job prospects in the area in which I want to go to school? Will I feel comfortable in my surroundings? For these reasons, you just don't see a lot of top national recruits going anywhere in the Big Twelve. Baylor gets some with a little different approach, an "us against the world approach" of Kim Mulkey that appears to get some who are anxious to go to war. Austin, once a dead end, has become recognized as a modern city, one with a vision. It is almost like it wasn't a part of Texas. I can see Texas. But, how many want to go to Manhattan, KS, Ames, IA, Lincoln, NE, Laramie, WY, or Salt Lake City?

Louisville and South Carolina may not be excellent academic schools, but both have the support of a solid minority community. It would be more surprising to see a top prospect go to Alabama, Mississippi, Mississippi State, or Auburn, as one did this past year.

You have to think like the prospect. What does the State of Oklahoma offer? Are they like me? I have to compare that along the side of Palo Alto, or Austin, or Louisville, or Durham, NC as I compare the programs.
 
First, stop thinking like a middle-aged white male. We probably don't need middle-aged males on the OU women's basketball team. The idea of recruiting is that you have to think like a recruit. If I'm a gymnastics prospect, my parents are probably fairly wealthy (cost of training), and I probably live in a somewhat upscale neighborhood. It's amazing how many come out of Plano or Park Ridge, IL. That is a different mindset from the typical basketball recruit.

Just as a reminder, Sheldon Williams and Richa Jackson were from Midwest City. Why didn't they stay in Oklahoma? We lose a lot of basketball players, African-American and caucasian.

If I am a top, minority recruit, which many are, do I think like a middle-aged white male? Let's not make this in any way political, but let's recognize that the white male tends to vote about 75% the opposite way from the minority who votes 95% the other way. That is a huge, huge difference in perspective. The politics isn't important. But, what gives rise to that difference in perspective is.

As a young person, I look at what is important to me and my entire future. The white male fan is looking at a basketball team. I'm looking at my entire life. What are my job prospects in the area in which I want to go to school? Will I feel comfortable in my surroundings? For these reasons, you just don't see a lot of top national recruits going anywhere in the Big Twelve. Baylor gets some with a little different approach, an "us against the world approach" of Kim Mulkey that appears to get some who are anxious to go to war. Austin, once a dead end, has become recognized as a modern city, one with a vision. It is almost like it wasn't a part of Texas. I can see Texas. But, how many want to go to Manhattan, KS, Ames, IA, Lincoln, NE, Laramie, WY, or Salt Lake City?

Louisville and South Carolina may not be excellent academic schools, but both have the support of a solid minority community. It would be more surprising to see a top prospect go to Alabama, Mississippi, Mississippi State, or Auburn, as one did this past year.

You have to think like the prospect. What does the State of Oklahoma offer? Are they like me? I have to compare that along the side of Palo Alto, or Austin, or Louisville, or Durham, NC as I compare the programs.

It's a rare occasion, but I wholeheartedly agree with Syb on this one. As a former PhD student at OU (I defended my dissertation in 2012) who is black, there weren't many redeeming qualities about being in Oklahoma. I loved the campus community, but anywhere else wasn't very welcoming of me as a young black man. I would imagine it would be similar for young black women. The state and area, I would imagine, would play a role in a decision to come to a school for basketball or any other reason.
 
I think Coale needs to step it up in social media. That is also what Stoops has changed. He is now involved with twitter. It would be great for a 2016, 2017, or a 2018 kid to get a follow request from the coach. It would be nice if she sent private messages and told them that she was interested. Instead of the letter in the mail.
 
I think Coale needs to step it up in social media. That is also what Stoops has changed. He is now involved with twitter. It would be great for a 2016, 2017, or a 2018 kid to get a follow request from the coach. It would be nice if she sent private messages and told them that she was interested. Instead of the letter in the mail.

Yes! With the popularity of social media, it seems incomprehensible that all coaches wouldn't take advantage of this method of connecting with recruits.
 
It kind of seems that you are yapping at the heels of a problem that you won't admit has much greater impact.
 
It's a rare occasion, but I wholeheartedly agree with Syb on this one. As a former PhD student at OU (I defended my dissertation in 2012) who is black, there weren't many redeeming qualities about being in Oklahoma. I loved the campus community, but anywhere else wasn't very welcoming of me as a young black man. I would imagine it would be similar for young black women. The state and area, I would imagine, would play a role in a decision to come to a school for basketball or any other reason.

I doubt that girls, black or white, spend a great deal of time off campus unless they go with other teammates. They truly are a family and somewhat create their own "community". They do just about everything together and color does not seem to have any bearing on their activities.

As I pointed out, there are other schools signing top black athletes with similar stats to OU. If those schools/communities are similar in black/white ratios, why can those schools sign the top black players but OU can't? Here's a hint, if you are thinking it's the ones doing the recruiting, you're on the right track! I also am not aware of any black athletes leaving because Norman is too white. Has anyone heard of any?

People who want to support Sherri in every thing she does will always find, or make up, an excuse to justify who we sign and who we don't. I will certainly support her for signing players like Ortiz, Dungee, and Llanusa but I still feel she misses on too many top black players. In many cases, she misses out on the great white players as well. It's pretty hard to say we miss out on white players because Norman is too white.
 
I think Coale needs to step it up in social media. That is also what Stoops has changed. He is now involved with twitter. It would be great for a 2016, 2017, or a 2018 kid to get a follow request from the coach. It would be nice if she sent private messages and told them that she was interested. Instead of the letter in the mail.

Pam is getting the right idea. Maybe the other coaches will follow her lead.

https://twitter.com/soonerswbb/status/523994394295554048
 
I missed it earlier but Pam made the following comment right after Nancy Mulkey posted she is missing OU:

SoonersWBB ‏@SoonersWBB 38m38 minutes ago

Come be apart of the Sooner family!!!

I give Pam 5 stars for paying attention to what recruits are saying and then replying with a very appropriate comment. It doesn't require much, just the right thing at the right time.
 
I completely agree but she has never sent a recruit a message on social media. I'm sure she has no intention of doing so now.

She probably won't, but she certainly needs to become part of the 21st century.
 
I doubt that girls, black or white, spend a great deal of time off campus unless they go with other teammates. They truly are a family and somewhat create their own "community". They do just about everything together and color does not seem to have any bearing on their activities.

As I pointed out, there are other schools signing top black athletes with similar stats to OU. If those schools/communities are similar in black/white ratios, why can those schools sign the top black players but OU can't? Here's a hint, if you are thinking it's the ones doing the recruiting, you're on the right track! I also am not aware of any black athletes leaving because Norman is too white. Has anyone heard of any?

People who want to support Sherri in every thing she does will always find, or make up, an excuse to justify who we sign and who we don't. I will certainly support her for signing players like Ortiz, Dungee, and Llanusa but I still feel she misses on too many top black players. In many cases, she misses out on the great white players as well. It's pretty hard to say we miss out on white players because Norman is too white.
I don't think you have ever thought about what it might be like to be a member of a minority. Forget your statistics. Kids grow up knowing states from reputation more than by factual demographics.

If I am an African-American kid from Cleveland, about the last thing I would consider would be to head south or to one of the states that have few African-Americans. You just don't see a lot of kids going south to Auburn like the one prospect did.

South Carolina, going back forty years, has always had the ability to recruit NYC. Frank McGuire made a career off of it. There is an African-American community in South Carolina. Louisville is much the same way.

At the same time, we have watched Texas prospects head to USC, UCLA, Stanford, Rutgers, or even LSU. Since the reputation of Austin as a city with a future has changed, it isn't the problem to recruit to that it once was.

I would bet that the average kid in Florida has almost no information about Utah. But, someone in the family remembers that they were one of the last schools to integrate. They may know an area by reputation within the African-American community. I don't know the African-American community that well, not being African-American, but I have seen enough to know that they don't look at a whole lot of things the way that I do, and I have been around civil rights for fifty years. I still make more errors than hits. The caucasian community may think everyone wanted Air Jordans. I saw a lot more loyalty and pride in FUBU.

The environment of the state plays a huge role. It is all about who you are.
 
Agree too! I have wondered for a while what Jan Ross does?? Sorry she got sick, but we need to move on if she can't contribute??

I'm not sure how much Jan is involved in recruiting. On Twitter, she follows some of the current basketball players, football players, and a number of golfers but she isn't following any recruits that I know of.
 
I agree with sybarite, somewhat on this one... Even tho majority of the team is black. In the state of Texas Sherri has had a lot of success getting girls like Nicole Kornet, and Peyton Little, both were the "Christian" type that someone posted Sherri likes her players to be. One of the reasons I thought We could land Cox, I noticed Sherri follows most of the Cox family on twitter, even though we may be in for a battle for Cox vs Baylor, I really like the effort Coale has been putting in with Cox. Sherri has also said she doesn't like recruiting, so I'm sure that's one reason we don't win most of the recruiting battle we face.

Mac, where did you find that Twitter account? The only one I've seen for Sherri has her following no one and only making one post.
 
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