Inbounding under the other basket, down 2, 0.6 sec left. What do you do?

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The end of Oakland's Horizon League tournament opener vs. Youngstown State yesterday:

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This completed a comeback from 4 down with 8 seconds to play. Oakland went on to win in overtime.

This may be an old-school tactic, but I've never seen it done before.
 
Made famous by Duke's Coach K. Its the same play Duke ran for Latner's game winner. If the inbounder can run the baseline, you set that screen for that reason. Almost every coach in America calls it "Duke".
 
Heck of a play and his only chance to tie the game. If the coach had not told the official what he was going to do, his chances of getting that call were slim and none. Oakland's coach is a smart guy!
 
CoachTalk said:
Made famous by Duke's Coach K. Its the same play Duke ran for Latner's game winner. If the inbounder can run the baseline, you set that screen for that reason. Almost every coach in America calls it "Duke".
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Against Kentucky?

No one guarded the in-bounder in that game.
 
I believe Billy or Kelvin did that once and we didn't get the foul call.
 
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That has been around forever. Most refs will not make that call.

Teams use it a lot of times to get the guy off the ball for a clear view to pass it in.
 
brettromar said:
That has been around forever. Most refs will not make that call.

Teams use it a lot of times to get the guy off the ball for a clear view to pass it in.
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True. That's usually because they're reluctant to make a call when they don't see the entire play.

The coach was wise to alert the official to what he was going to do in advance.
 
It seems kind of cheap, but at the same time, why is the inbounds guy being guarded so closely when the only thing that saves them is a shot on the other end? By all means, just treat it like a football Hail Mary and have all of your tallest, surest hands ready to intercept or bat the ball away
 
badger said:
It seems kind of cheap, but at the same time, why is the inbounds guy being guarded so closely when the only thing that saves them is a shot on the other end? By all means, just treat it like a football Hail Mary and have all of your tallest, surest hands ready to intercept or bat the ball away
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Guarding the passer makes it more difficult for him to make an accurate pass.
 
campbest said:
Against Kentucky?

No one guarded the in-bounder in that game.
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Im aware of that. He didn't set it up that time, not sure why... BUT I assure you it came from that same "set"

Not sure what your beef is lately, but you wear me out with pointing out flaws. You life suck that bad? I don't make this $hit up so I look cool or smart... Just trying to add to the story a little.
 
CoachTalk said:
Im aware of that. He didn't set it up that time, not sure why... BUT I assure you it came from that same "set"

Not sure what your beef is lately, but you wear me out with pointing out flaws. You life suck that bad? I don't make this $hit up so I look cool or smart... Just trying to add to the story a little.
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i guess i'm confused too. you said this is the same play Coach K used to free up laetner. It obviously wasnt.
 
I guess I am in the minority, I see that as a no call. Kid set a blind pick and went down by contact. No call in most situations. Also if I was a ref I would take into consideration no basketball play was attempted. The person setting the screen had no reason to set a screen. No other basketball players were down there to benifit from it. All he was attempting was to draw a foul. No call all the way if I was officiating.
 
I ran the same play with my 10-year old team. Told the ref we were going to run and we knew they would run over our screener. Worked great, foul called, but we missed the free throws. Hey, they were 10.

This is something that has been around a very long time. It was around before Coach K, as we ran this in junior high and that was before Coach K was coaching at Duke - I think.
 
snydrosooner said:
The person setting the screen had no reason to set a screen.
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not correct. He set the screen to get the inbounder a free view to throw the ball in.

Having said that, I fail to see how it is a foul as well. How is this difference from spangler setting a hard screen and a collision happening?
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
not correct. He set the screen to get the inbounder a free view to throw the ball in.

Having said that, I fail to see how it is a foul as well. How is this difference from spangler setting a hard screen and a collision happening?
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Because it's illegal to run through a screen.
 
JBaker said:
Because it's illegal to run through a screen.
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But it happens all the time and is no called. Usually the only time this type of call is made if there is a push of some sort as the player tries to go around the screen. According to a ref friend of mine there is no protection for a blind screener according to the rules. Most officials apply rules for other situations to the screen and call a foul. I still go back to no basketball reason for the screen. I just don't see how if I walk up behind a guy all the way on the other side of the court and set a blind screen on him with the ball not in play and he turns and runs into me how that is a foul on him. I can see a no call but how was that a foul on him.
 
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