Interesting proposal from NCAA for high school hires

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This article is for football, but acknowledges the fact that hiring coaches for recruits is more prevalent in basketball

If passed does it make its way to basketball?

Tl;dr

A college would be prevented from hiring a high school coach for a support role if it had recruited a player from his school in the previous two years and would be prohibited from recruiting players from that high school for two years after the hire.
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USA Today article
 
Should really be for all collegiate sports although only the football and basketball are the main problems.
 
Unfortunately, the rule would knock out too many legitimate hires to be okay. Any high school coach or staffer looking to move up would be barred from tons of jobs if they had good players coming through their program.


Wish you could get rid of the blatant ones like the Porters, but those seem few and far enough between that you just have to shrug it off.
 
sperry said:
Unfortunately, the rule would knock out too many legitimate hires to be okay. Any high school coach or staffer looking to move up would be barred from tons of jobs if they had good players coming through their program.


Wish you could get rid of the blatant ones like the Porters, but those seem few and far enough between that you just have to shrug it off.
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I basically agree with this. Who gets hurt here? The high school coaches who end up not getting to move up. I don't know how to police this, or even whether it should be policed. The guys like the Porters are the only ones whose coaches will be hired just for the recruit and they're only 1 year players anyway. Coaches won't hire a high school coach for a good 3 or 4 star recruit. And if they hire a guy who can't coach just to get a 1 year recruit it may end up hurting them more in the long run.

If you want to police it, maybe require the college to keep the coach on staff for a minimum of 3 years unless they break a law or NCAA rule. Maybe then they'll think twice about hiring a coach just for the recruit.

The other thing I'll add is that implicit in this argument is the assumption that the Porters' father can't coach and doesn't deserve to be a college assistant. I'm not sure why anyone would just assume that to be true.
 
aka.....the KU rule.

Of course Billy did hire Mike Mims!!!!
 
sperry said:
Unfortunately, the rule would knock out too many legitimate hires to be okay. Any high school coach or staffer looking to move up would be barred from tons of jobs if they had good players coming through their program.


Wish you could get rid of the blatant ones like the Porters, but those seem few and far enough between that you just have to shrug it off.
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I think they should start with a rule that says a school cannot hire a recruit's parent. For example, Ronnie Chalmers, with little relevant experience, becomes lands the "Director of Basketball Operations" job for the three seasons his son, Mario, is a player at KU. This is such an obvious loophole in "don't pay players" rule that it's almost insulting.
 
Oklahoma needs the same rule for AAU basketball coaches that get hired at a high school and bring players with them, Edmond North, Put North and Mustang are examples the last couple of years.
 
Dumb.

If they are trying to curb hiring fathers, most of the time those guys weren't head coaches where their sons played in HS. Or often they aren't.

Really hurts in places like Texas and Ohio, where a lot of good HS coaches get hired on at colleges for legitimate reasons.
 
Sounds like a collusion/restraint of trade lawsuit against the NCAA waiting to happen.
 
cvangild said:
aka.....the KU rule.

Of course Billy did hire Mike Mims!!!!
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Can you enlighten us on the Mike Mims hire? Mike's youngest son was one of my closest friends so I am curious as to the comment.
 
Bk2X said:
Can you enlighten us on the Mike Mims hire? Mike's youngest son was one of my closest friends so I am curious as to the comment.
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Ever hear of Wayman and William Tisdale?
 
chuckb said:
I basically agree with this. Who gets hurt here? The high school coaches who end up not getting to move up. I don't know how to police this, or even whether it should be policed. The guys like the Porters are the only ones whose coaches will be hired just for the recruit and they're only 1 year players anyway. Coaches won't hire a high school coach for a good 3 or 4 star recruit. And if they hire a guy who can't coach just to get a 1 year recruit it may end up hurting them more in the long run.

If you want to police it, maybe require the college to keep the coach on staff for a minimum of 3 years unless they break a law or NCAA rule. Maybe then they'll think twice about hiring a coach just for the recruit.

The other thing I'll add is that implicit in this argument is the assumption that the Porters' father can't coach and doesn't deserve to be a college assistant. I'm not sure why anyone would just assume that to be true.
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I don't know if he can coach or not, but I do know that there is zero chance he was the most qualified candidate for any of the jobs he's gotten. His sister-in-law hired him as an assistant for the Mizzou women's team, and then Washington hired him as an assistant to get MPJ, which Missouri did exactly the same thing after Romar was fired
 
Sounds like Mims turned out to be a legit hire.
 
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