Jeff Capel to Georgia Tech ?

[catoosanumber22]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...yellow-jackets-reach-jeff-capel-jay-larranaga

 

[catoosanumber22]

Does anyone think he will be a better head coach this time around ?

 

[sperry]

Does anyone think he will be a better head coach this time around ?

Yes, I do. What's crazy is, 5 years removed from this job, he is still just 41 years old.

Posters here hate him with such a burning passion that it clouds their judgment, but the guy is a good coach. He failed here because he made mistakes regarding roster management and recruiting strategy, which aren't too terribly surprising considering he was one of the youngest head coaches in division 1. He has spent the last 5 years coaching under probably the 2nd best coach in college basketball history. He's a smart guy, and I believe he'll learn from the mistakes he made here.

 

[MercedeSooner]

Not a Capel fan but he ll probably do well this go around. GA Tech is a pretty good job also. He made a lot of mistakes here at OU and I'm sure he has learned a lot - but I doubt that Duke attitude has improved much considering he's been under Sheshevski.

 

[One More Rebound]

Capel will do well at Georgia Tech, if he realizes he cannot recruit there as if he were still at Duke. It's great to get Mcdonald's and Parade All-Americans, but he needs to build an entire roster.

 

[IndySooner]

He will not do well unless his ego has been bruised and he understands the world doesn't revolve around him. That could have happened, but given the stories I've heard, I'd bet against him.

 

[hoopsaustin]

dude is bad

 

[Big Old Booger]

No. He will not fare any better, mainly because he will be at Georgia Tech in a big boy conference with UNC, Duke, Notre Dame, Syracuse, etc., which GT will not surpass.

He needs to be coaching in the A10 or the MEAC or one of the East Coast conferences. I would say Ivy League but the dummies he recruits can't get into the Ivy League.

 

[Big Old Booger]

Yes, I do. What's crazy is, 5 years removed from this job, he is still just 41 years old.

Posters here hate him with such a burning passion that it clouds their judgment, but the guy is a good coach. He failed here because he made mistakes regarding roster management and recruiting strategy, which aren't too terribly surprising considering he was one of the youngest head coaches in division 1. He has spent the last 5 years coaching under probably the 2nd best coach in college basketball history. He's a smart guy, and I believe he'll learn from the mistakes he made here.

I disagree with a lot of what you said but I don't really feel like arguing about it. However, the part I bolded...how many Duke guys who worked with Coach K have been successful? Not Amaker, not Dawkins, Mike Brey at ND has done a decent job but they were mediocre for about 7-8 years. I can't think of a single Duke asst Coach who has been anywhere near as successful as coach K so I don't think the fact he's worked with K for 5 years amounts to much.

 

[califca]

No. He will not fare any better, mainly because he will be at Georgia Tech in a big boy conference with UNC, Duke, Notre Dame, Syracuse, etc., which GT will not surpass.

He needs to be coaching in the A10 or the MEAC or one of the East Coast conferences. I would say Ivy League but the dummies he recruits can't get into the Ivy League.

Frankly. I don't give a damn.

 

[sperry]

I disagree with a lot of what you said but I don't really feel like arguing about it. However, the part I bolded...how many Duke guys who worked with Coach K have been successful? Not Amaker, not Dawkins, Mike Brey at ND has done a decent job but they were mediocre for about 7-8 years. I can't think of a single Duke asst Coach who has been anywhere near as successful as coach K so I don't think the fact he's worked with K for 5 years amounts to much.

Amaker has had plenty of success. He wasn't able to turn around a Michigan program that was in shambles, but he's built Harvard of all places into a strong program.

Brey has done a great job, not sure where you're getting the "mediocre for 7 or 8 years part). They were making the tourney basically every year, and have now made two straight elite 8s.


Dawkins had a mediocre run at Stanford, but he did make a sweet 16.



Steve Wocjiehowski is in year two at Marquette, it remains to see how he'll do.

And for much as you like to hate on Jeff Capel, he's got 160 career wins, 3 tournament appearances and an elite 8 under his belt at age 41. He's a smart guy and an ace recruiter, I expect that he'll learn from his failures in Norman.


And regardless, this is not worht debating with you. You clearly take Capel's failure here as a personal slight against you, and hold by far the biggest grudge against him of any poster on the board, which is saying something. You're not capable of a rational conversation on the subject.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I think he will recruit well. I think he learned his lesson on recruiting and will do fine in that regard.

As far as coaching, we lacked an identity when he was here. I'd assume that he picked up some things from Coach K but while he was here, nothing led me to believe that he was a good x's and o's coach

 

[Big Old Booger]

Amaker has had plenty of success. He wasn't able to turn around a Michigan program that was in shambles, but he's built Harvard of all places into a strong program.

Brey has done a great job, not sure where you're getting the "mediocre for 7 or 8 years part). They were making the tourney basically every year, and have now made two straight elite 8s.


Dawkins had a mediocre run at Stanford, but he did make a sweet 16.



Steve Wocjiehowski is in year two at Marquette, it remains to see how he'll do.

And for much as you like to hate on Jeff Capel, he's got 160 career wins, 3 tournament appearances and an elite 8 under his belt at age 41. He's a smart guy and an ace recruiter, I expect that he'll learn from his failures in Norman.


And regardless, this is not worht debating with you. You clearly take Capel's failure here as a personal slight against you, and hold by far the biggest grudge against him of any poster on the board, which is saying something. You're not capable of a rational conversation on the subject.

I forgot about Amaker's decent success at Harvard, he did make the NCAA tourney 5 years straight.

With Brey, for 11 seasons, 03/04 to 13/14, he had 4 NIT's, 4 first round losses, 2 second round losses, and a losing season in 13/14. That's what I meant by he was mediocre for a long period. 2 elite 8's in a row is good but that 11 year stretch would get a coach fired in a lot of places.

As for your comments about Capel, like I said we disagree. I would even say we are polar opposites on that topic. I don't take it personal and I have no grudge against him. Like I said, the guy would be better served to take an A10 or MEAC job which is in an area he can recruit and improve his coaching skills. I have a lot of issues with Jeff Capel as a coach of MY team, but of other teams I really don't care. I also vehemently disagree with your point he's an ace recruiter. I think the results at OU proved he is not.

 

[DenverSooner]

but he likes Jay Z.

 

[sheepdogs1]

No. He will not fare any better, mainly because he will be at Georgia Tech in a big boy conference with UNC, Duke, Notre Dame, Syracuse, etc., which GT will not surpass.

He needs to be coaching in the A10 or the MEAC or one of the East Coast conferences. I would say Ivy League but the dummies he recruits can't get into the Ivy League.

When Bobby Cremmins was their coach they were a team to be reckoned with. They were top notch.

 

[cowboysooner]

I think that from an X and O standpoint, Capel is a good coach. He may have learned from his OU stent and do well this time.

If I was him, I wouldn't take the job however. If he fails there, and he might no matter what due to the competition, he will never get another job. If he stays at Duke, and continues to be successful recruiting for Duke, he could get the job when Mike leaves. I would think he could be successful at Duke.

Lose at GT, Duke will not hire him. JMO

 

[sperry]

I think that from an X and O standpoint, Capel is a good coach. He may have learned from his OU stent and do well this time.

If I was him, I wouldn't take the job however. If he fails there, and he might no matter what due to the competition, he will never get another job. If he stays at Duke, and continues to be successful recruiting for Duke, he could get the job when Mike leaves. I would think he could be successful at Duke.

Lose at GT, Duke will not hire him. JMO

K can't be around for too much longer. Capel will know if he's getting that job or not, and I would guess his behavior in this instance will show where they stand on that front.

That being said, Amaker could very well be a candidate, and Wojo could make himself one with strong work at Marquette. Plus factor in that all but about 10 or so current coaches would leave their current job in a heartbeat for the Duke job.

 

[WaymanFan]

First, the Coach K assistants have not done very well as head coaches and none will likely be considered as his successor. Mike Brey has been the best, as he's a "solid" head coach. Jeff Capel was never a Coach K assistant until after he was fired from OU, but he's probably the second most accomplished out of all of them...that's not a good sign. And no, Tommy Amaker has a 0% chance of getting that job. He struck out at both places he coached at (Seton Hall and Michigan) in major conferences. The fact he's doing a solid job at Harvard is not going to land him at Duke.

Funny thing is, Jeff Capel probably has the best chance of replacing Coach K, but I'm not sure how high his chances are. Most of Capel's problems at OU are "correctable" (like how to run a program). He'll be able to reel in the Burger Boys and will resonate with the fan base (the latter he obviously didn't do in Norman). He was either 7-0 or 8-0 in OT games at OU, a sign he might know what he's doing on the bench.

To me, the biggest question mark about Coach Capel is "How good is he at EVALUATING TALENT?" He will need to sprinkle in some 4-star recruits, plus get the RIGHT 5-star recruits. I'm not sure that question was answered at OU.

As for Georgia Tech, I think he would only take that job if he's not under consideration to replace Coach K. It is a better job than ASU (he passed on them last year), but it's still a step down from OU. He will elevate the GT program, but they will still be behind Duke, NC, Louisville and Syracuse on the totem pole. We'll know soon enough if he wants to be considered for that job.

 

[StatGeek]

He may do better than he did here but that's not saying much, I would be surprised if he still had the job in 5 years.